Apparently. I guess dcv cv means I'm weaseling out but making it up by buying you a beer No worries.

On another note, I had a private chuckle at the article in this months Bicycling on crank arm length. For a while now I've been trying to track down a 160mm crankset that wasn't a bmx type (hoping for a lower q-factor). It says this length is hard to come by (no ****). Bulletproof are cheap, but again bmx. Miche has a line of road cranks called Young for junior riders but are 155mm. Any thoughts on locating something under $200 that are road/track?