Originally Posted by mechBgon
keep arguing, it's sure to solve everything!
With the ongoing back-&-forth about locking the rear wheel, versus locking the bike, I will repeat myself: you can lock both at once. Just put the lock's shackle through the wheel and the chainstays, or the wheel and the seatstays. Best of both worlds, plus there's that much less space for lock-breaking tools to be inserted into the shackle.
In downtown Houston, stupid crooks use the "lift and twist" method. They lift the bike and twist it. If it is a Wal-Mart bike, and a Wal-Mart u-lock, the lock pops open, and they ride off.
If a crook uses "lift and twist" on a bike with a three pound frame and a Kryptonite or OnGuard U-lock, the seat tube turns into a pretzel. I've walked past at least two "pretzeled" bikes in downtown Houston this year. A sad sight.
One more reason I would never put a u-lock near the frame of my bikes.