read through the old posts here. You can use the search function to find comments on various rims. I am intrigued by the Torelli Master rims. I keep hearing good things about them, and they will save you some bucks over the Open Pros. Depends on your budget, the weight difference between the Master and the OP is about an ounce for both rims. If you need to save a couple bucks more, go with the 105 hubs.