I'm looking for handlebar advice for a fixed gear commuter bike. Basically, I find my "neutral" position occurs when my palms face down and slightly inboard and with my index knuckles slightly forward of my pinky knuckles. That's a lousy description, so think where your palms would be on the oars of a rowboat when you're extended at the start of a stroke. Other threads have detailed the ergonomic advantage of this position.

It seems to me the best bar for this position is a moustache with some drop to it, like so:


Here's my question: could I get a comparable position on a flat Nitto promenade? Here's a pic:


I'm thinking if I tilt the bars downward a bit, the outer edge of the curve gives a similar hand position to the moustache. The problem I see is the absence of reach in this position (it's actually slightly negative reach), compared with the moustache where there's probably 90-100 mm reach at this point. I'd need a stem with ~170 mm reach (!) to make up the difference from my current setup, and that stem doesn't seem to exist.

Can anyone think of a clever solution to the reach problem? Would dropping the stem help? Am I just too accustomed to my drops and the shorter reach might feel great (esp since I could climb from that position)? I know, getting the moustache is the *best* solution, but this would be such a sweet setup, and I'm not above aesthetics.

If I'm not explaining the hand positions well, lemme know and I'll try again.