Originally Posted by noisebeam
What were the other 'nicer than Surly' steel frames you were considering.
I am in a similar situation of wanting a more performance oriented bike (compared to my 22lbs steel conversion). Something good for fast pacelines and hillclimbs.
A friend owning bikeshop suggested I try a Fuji Track Pro (frame only) at steeply discounted price. Before that I was thinking of more road oriented steel frames.
Al
Go for it if it's a steeply discounted price. That's the thing... the light higher-end steel frames I know of cost a lot more than even lighter aluminum frames like the Fuji Track Pro, so that's why I have been starting to lean towards aluminum, even though I think all the aluminum frames are ugly (except the pista concept). But NEIST just mentioned that Jamis Sputnik, and that seems to be very reasonably priced, good steel, and light, so I don't know.... I guess I just wish there were a bike shop here in the Bay Area that stocks all of these in 62cm since I'd really like to test ride them and pick the one that feels right.