Originally Posted by oujeep1
If you wear a helmet mirror or visor, or a camelback big enough to pack to a trip to everest, you are fred. MTB shoes on a road bike- fred. I believe a major difference is you can be an ocp and know that you are, and in fact be quite proud of it. but a fred, i believe, does not know he is one.
Uh oh, I ride Speedplay frogs and the necessary MTB shoes on my road bike ;-) I bike enough places where being able to walk a whole block is important, I wouldn't want road shoes. I did not know this made me a Fred. I guess this proves your point.