Originally Posted by oujeep1
If you wear a helmet mirror or visor, or a camelback big enough to pack to a trip to everest, you are fred. MTB shoes on a road bike- fred. I believe a major difference is you can be an ocp and know that you are, and in fact be quite proud of it. but a fred, i believe, does not know he is one.
This is ridiculous ! Because I don't want to take my eyes off the road at 28mph and look for my buddies that are continually behind me in my helmet mirror I'm now a "something"??
