Originally Posted by 14max

I agree with you there. The artisan comment really comes from the viewpoint of what can be done to the lugs to make them stand out from one another. Really good filework goes a long way in this regard. Welds are different and one can really discern a good weld from a great weld, especially if left unpainted. I've seen, and now own, a frame that has great welds. The craftspeople at places like Merlin Litespeed, Dean, Spectrum, Moots, and Indy Fab should be very proud of what they produce...