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Old 06-30-06 | 05:26 AM
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CommuterRun
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In a NOL, if there's no room for a car to safely pass a bicycle, there's no room for a bicycle to safely pass a car in the same lane. For a cyclist to pass on the left and be out of the door zone, the rider would have to be well out into the on-coming lane.

Originally Posted by Helmet Head
A common misconception about VC is that VC means you have to follow the letter of the law. However, "vehicular cycling requires sound judgment in the application of the principles of driving, not blind compliance with the law."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vehicul..._of_the_law.22
That entry in Wikipedia is full of Bull. When I get the time, I'm intend to correct that.

Originally Posted by Helmet Head
The law has to be black and white in order to be able to enforce it objectively. However, the black & white model often does not fit the real world. The decision about whether to mark a road with a striped or double-yellow solid stripe is a good example of this.
Translation: I break the law whenever I want for the sake of my own convience.

Nearly everybody does this. Motorists and cyclists are two peas in a pod, which is what causes all the friction on the road.

Originally Posted by Helmet Head
While cycling on narrow 2 lane roads, I am often passed by cagers moving across a double-yellow stripe to do so. It would not be safe for them to pass another cager in that situation... hence the double-yellow, but passing a cyclist is really not an issue.
The only reason it's not safe for a car to pass a car on a double yellow is the sight line distance at close to the same relative speed. A bicycle can be passed much more quickly and, as a result, safely, with shorter sight lines.

Originally Posted by Helmet Head
When there is no room on the right (except for dirt), crossing the double yellow line in order to pass on the left IS riding as far right as practicable!
That's quite a stretch, and that statement would work to justify maneuvering around a road hazard, such as a refrigerator that fell off a truck, but not in passing other vehicles. In fact it's such a stretch, that statement has no credibility in trying to justify illegal passing.

Originally Posted by Helmet Head
I don't want to behave like a vehicle. Do you?
By the way, vehicles don't obey any laws. Vehicles do not obey, period.
By the definitions of state law my bicycles are vehicles. When riding one, I am a driver.
316.003 Definitions.--The following words and phrases, when used in this chapter, shall have the meanings respectively ascribed to them in this section, except where the context otherwise requires:
(2) BICYCLE.--Every vehicle propelled solely by human power, and every motorized bicycle propelled by a combination of human power and an electric helper motor capable of propelling the vehicle at a speed of not more than 20 miles per hour on level ground upon which any person may ride, having two tandem wheels, and including any device generally recognized as a bicycle though equipped with two front or two rear wheels. The term does not include such a vehicle with a seat height of no more than 25 inches from the ground when the seat is adjusted to its highest position or a scooter or similar device. No person under the age of 16 may operate or ride upon a motorized bicycle.
(10) DRIVER.--Any person who drives or is in actual physical control of a vehicle on a highway or who is exercising control of a vehicle or steering a vehicle being towed by a motor vehicle.

This gives me:
316.2065 Bicycle regulations.--

(1) Every person propelling a vehicle by human power has all of the rights and all of the duties applicable to the driver of any other vehicle under this chapter, except as to special regulations in this chapter, and except as to provisions of this chapter which by their nature can have no application.
(italics mine)

The only two valid options to the scenario presented in the OP are:
1) Wait your turn, in line.
2) Hang a U-turn and take a detour.
Anything else is just, "Ooooh, that's not convient for me," whining and creates more road user friction which begets more whining, and on and on.......

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