I personally like the no lights on road bikes thing. Ill tell you what, after the time change in the fall you bring your pretty unlighted road bike and come play in amish country. 20 Miles from home no moon, no street lights and you havent seen a car for the last 20 minutes. ANd to top it off you know that your cell phone wont get reception. You had better have lights. or its a long dark walk home? Or maybe when it gets dark at 5 and snows you quit riding?