Originally Posted by carleton
Hey, man. I'm not saying it's a mortal sin to do those. I've done them all when I was a kid. But, now that I'm an adult and recognize the value in "having the right tool for the job", I'll choose to use the right tools and products made for the job.
Also, it's one thing to "do what you need to do" and another thing to ask "What should I do." When one is doing what one needs to do, you just do it and get it done and don't ask a lot of questions. If one asks "What should I do?", don't be surprised when people answer...even if it's not what one wants to hear.
Know what I mean?
Yeah, I get it...but no offense, I just think you are taking an unreasonably hard line on this. I mean, I recognize the need for proper bike tools, but I also realize that there are certain tools that you can get away without and still end up with a properly assembled and maintained bike...a chain whip being one of them. Obviously, because you can generate more leverage with the wheel than with a chain whip, you shouldn't ultra-hardcore crank on the wheel to tighten the cog. But anyone with common sense should be able to figure that out...a chain whip is just one of those tools that you don't really need, provided you know what you are doing, you'll get the same result rotafixing. Likewise, I don't need a bike stand to work on my bike...I usually just flip it upside down. Hey, I get the same result in the end. Bye...