A pirate website would be an isolated backwater, total control but sterile.

We are discussing CM among pirates. I am not interested in having a CM discusion among the activist kids on the CM website. They have no message control, no interest in DC except as a staging ground for their protests and insufficient experience with bikes or riding.

If CM is left up to them is will end in another street fight and then die when they go back to school in August. A fun protest but not a community. They are slumming here, dreaming of righteous riots. But like Jello says "tommorow you're homeless/ tonight it's a blast".

Does anyone remember the pepper spray incident?

Pirates on the other hand have a pretty good interest in the politics of riding in DC as well as all the other characteristics. We, with the other amateur riding clubs, messengers, WABA and commuters have the best chance to keep empowering DC cyclists.

The CCT is the product of lobbying and social pressure, so are bikes on metro , bike lanes, lockup bollards, bike rooms in apartments, and bike racks on buses.

Lets keep on going...