dude what do you know of bike geometry aren't you brand new to this sport and are just learning to use clipless pedals :confused: this design has been around for a couple years now (klein palomino, Maverick monolink Ml-7) and has been getting kick butt reviews, my bud rides a palomino and that thing rides great and climbs outstanding, just to little travel for my taste. i hate when people dog on other peoples rides especially when they have no idea what they're talking about.