On a side note. If you are serious a pure urban/trial/bmx on a mtb stuff. Stick with a ht. The hits will be cleaner and your skills will get up there. Definately avoid the xc frame geometry though and get something dedicated to that style. I could name them all but seriously Ben at www.unrealcycles.com carries the best, toughest and most reasonable prices. Look through those frames and see if you like anything. If I were to stick strictly to street I would not buy a dually