Originally Posted by dsm iv tr
A lot of this thread is irrelevant. Perfect sustainability is an ideal. In most modern situations , working towards this ideal means *reducing* the impact we create on the environment, while at the same time recognizing that we cannot eliminate it (for the time being -- if not ever).
As to "bragging", I think that's a bit of a contextual word. All the bickering and insulting others' choices -- including the OP's original sentiments, not-as-thinly-veiled as they are -- won't get us anything except ill-informed argument, and comments like "pickled testicles" there at the top of this thread. 
Peace,
dsm (thinking this thread needs a little dab of "threadlocker")
No thread can officially be locked until some lurker outsmugs the rest of us by pointing out how irrelevant the other posts are, only he's so freekin superior to everybody else that he can't be bothered to contribute his divine wisdom, beyond exposing everybody else's stupiditity. Thank god this DSM-IV joker declared the thread dead so he doesn't have to read any more stupid posts.