Last week, I was in Lake Placid for 4 days, and the leaves up there are already about 1/2 turned. When I got home, the first job waiting for me was the mounting of the rear fender to the road bike. I don't ride that bike in the rain, but I can't wait all day for the road to dry, either. The studded tyres will be going on the hybrid sometime in mid-november, most likely.