The weinmanns I was looking at have plain stamps for letter that say weinmann vanquer, and on the back say "made by weinmann in switzerland" or some such thing.

I also saw older shimano 600 F and R derailleurs with the swirly engraving on them. Anybody interested?

I also have a question about suntour "V" rear derailleur: is it above or below in quality to Cyclone? It looks to be at least as good of quality as the VGT luxe, except for 5 speed. Should I swap it for the cyclone I already am using? The bike is mostly Superbe, which is what I am aiming for, but I can't find superbe F and R ders.