Okay, folks, now I am really confused. I just got off the phone with a guy who has a couple of Terry's to sell who is so down on them he made me rethink the whole thing. He says that the shifters are junk (and would have to be replaced) and that he thinks that for the money Terry bikes are overpriced for what they are. And I was just settling into the idea of buying one. I'm still leaning that way because he'll give me a deal, about $400 for a new bike (with a set of rapid fire shifters). The cons: I can't try the bike; it's 24 lbs; it has 26 inch wheels. The pros: good price (unless it's a bad bike); it weighs less than the Treks, the Kona Dew, and the Sirrus; it's got really good gearing; it's steel. Does anyone know anyone who rides one of these? On paper it seems perfect, but this guy was very very down on the Susan B and Terry more generally.