I was being sarcastic, but you'll find a lot here that say that the "cager" was guilty because he was driving a car. In this forum, even if the circumstances clearly indicate that there was some circumstance that was beyond the driver's control, and God forbid even if the cyclist caused the accident, the "cager" should still smoke a turd in hell because they killed a cyclist. After all, the consequences of their actions can have a more drastic effect on "innocent victims" than if a cyclist was just as irresponsible.