yeah, me too. i sent it back for a refund and am using a seatpost clamp rack w/tubing down the sides so panniers can be used too. it's not as sturdy as a rack that bolts on and means we can't use the suspension post --- but i figure we honest will rarely tour.

we've got a handlebar bag (jandd) on the stocker bars as well as the jandd frame pack, plus seat bag that's sufficient for most of our day rides. warning, the jandd frame pack's velcro is barely large enough to get all the way around the tosa's large diameter top tube. it seems to be holding but it's hanging onto probably by only of 1-2mm of velcro.

john