I just took one in for warranty. It was heavy as hell, like old steel frame heavy. The seat tube came out of the BB lug. But you couldn't tell just by looking. I know it is about 17 years old. No way it's 10yrs my friend. Like some else posted: if a store looks at it and says it's good, you gots a deal. Enjoy.

Rad: Those were downtube shifter frames.