well.. after riding them for about 3 months im going to try something else.. They worked pretty good it seemed.. i normally get a flat a week and right after i got them i didnt get a flat for 3 weeks.. then the luck went away and i got a flat right between the two different tread compounds.. then a few days later i hit a branch i couldnt miss and it gave me a nasty 4mm puncture on my sidewall.. i patched it with a dollar bill between my tube and road the tires with only one flat until yesterday when a shard of glass cut the center of my tire. those were vittoria evo cx's... i think i may try the vittoria evo's they are supposed to flat a lot less.

i couldnt tell that much of a difference riding them compared to my last tires.. specialized mondo's