No toe overlap problems either. I don't know how but I think I just found the perfect bike for me and my character. I know that it's true for cars, the car u drive represents the person u are. Well I don't have a car and I hope this surly is essentially me, a harsh looking bruiser, who burns to be fast, give it a ride and u'll find out, it's pretty smooth...not too bad, not perfect but works hard to be, at least, decent in a few different areas