two things that removed any respect regarding oakley:
-too many rednecks with Oakley decals in the window of their vehicles
-the oakley thump mp3 glasses
also, I think basically everything they've designed in the last 5-10 years has been ugly as hell. I had a pair of m-frames and a pair of pro-frames (goggles). The pro-frames I still have but the (iridium coated) lenses are scratched to hell. I have no idea where my m-frames are. Both had great optics, but the iridium lenses will scratch from a strong breeze.