Steve,

I agree with you. I was just showing how playing with the numbers can sway the comparison in the other direction. Yes, I'm sure the dimensions are overall, and making a box out of them does not accurately depict the bikes' sizes. On the other hand, adding the differences in each dimension does not accurately depict the differences between the sizes of the bikes. A Piccolo does not look much bigger than a Brompton, but these look considerably smaller than a Speed 8.

In my case, the 20" wheel size did not let me stand the bike upright in my trunk, so I could not fit three in, at least without mangling them and especially when carrying anything else. This one dimension did mess it up for me. Yes, I should get a station wagon. Maybe later. Then I can get that Swift, or Jetstream, or ...

BTW, your list of places/transportation you have taken your Speed 7 is impressive. Any place you tried that did not let it in/on?