probabally. I'm going to take the advice of Ganesha and just stick what works for me....triflo w/teflon. Sure it's wet and collects, but I actually enjoy cleaning my chain/cassette/everything else. And with a CLEAN drivetrain, I only have to do the maintenance like once a month. Every 300 miles or so. Thanks for following mudpie. I thought this would get more heated than it has. Maybee if I tell everyone I'm a Republican?