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Old 10-12-01 | 12:33 PM
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D*Alex
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I'm sorry, Joe, but I don't see where asking somebody how they personally construe the supposed actions of their preferred diety from mundane occurances, such as were described in greg's post. I don't have a clue what Jesus would've done in such a situation. Perhaps he would've, upon seeing the folly of his deed, sold his bike at the next shop, donated the money to the first church he crossed, and walked home. It's a possibility.
This seems to be a personal shortcoming of mine. When something challenging happens, I generally just deal with it in the best way that I know how, using the brain that I was provided with, and deal with the consequences or rewards resulting from such actions. I have personally never witnessed any interference of the almighty within anything that I've ever observed, and don't generally find myself asking how a prophet of 2 mellenia previous would deal in just such a situation.
The reason why I would not is because I am not Jesus. Only Jesus would know what Jesus would do, and by saying that I knew what he would do would be tantamount to saying that I thought in the exact same way. In medeival times, such a statement would likely have resulted in being labelled a heretic, with all the drawbacks that would offer.
I'm sorry if I rubbed Greg the wrong way. I hear people use these expressions all the time, and the underlying assertation that "I know what Jesus thinks" is, for me at least, being utterly sanctimonious. Applying the same logic in the situation mentioned could also be used as a way of limiting personal responsibility (although the argument for that is a bit of a stretch, and, besides, that's not what I'm trying to say), by saying that "I got myself into this mess, but he will get me out of it", rather than saying "well, I'm gonna have to work harder than I planned to-next time I'll think ahead".
OK, so I'm a bit abrasive. I'm sorry if I made you think about the underlying message in your post, and I'm sorry if you either don't like the fact that I don't believe in your faith, or that maybe you feel belittled. It's not your faith that I'm talking about, it's the way that people haphazardly apply it.
Jesus was a great teacher, for sure. I have always admired the teaching attributed to him by such authors as Matthew, Mark, and Luke, who re-told the stories of his life anywhere from 30-75 years after his death. I admire his teachings, but do not believe in his divinity. I also believe that there are limits to taking his teaching out of context, and applying them to situations which he never addressed. I'm sorry if people find that offensive.
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