I NEVER assume that a group ride is going to be as "slow" as they say - it is an unfortunite fact with the faster groups out there. I very much enjoy going fast - I mean really fast - unfortunity the group rides tend to be like this - hammerfests. I have ridden in my fair share of group rides avertised at 21 MPH ave - who get out on a flat road and crank it up to 30 - 32 MPH - and this is a recreational group!

Between about March and September IMO any racer who is not at the race is looking for something fast on the weekend. I now ask every ride leader before I ride (or even bring my bike out) how fast 1. do you cruise, 2. where do you ride, 3. What do you average, and finally 4. How many miles. If they are honest then they will give you fairly accurate numbers.

As a rule, add at least 30% MPH to any groups average to have an idea of how fast you need to be able to go to "hang" - 12 MPH - 15 MPH APROX, 20 MPH - 30 MPH APROX -

Just an idea!

Mandy


Oh ya, group rides are just a testosterone fest - even more than racing!