Just for the heck of it, if and when one of you guys with a Varsity or Continental has everything off of the frameset for a repaint, how about weighing just the frame and fork and posting the weight?

The idea that the one piece Ashtabula cranks, steel wheels, steel stems and bars, etc., may bear much of the responsibility for the reputation of these bikes as "tanks" has me wondering just how much the frame and fork contributes to that reputation.