I know it. I want the newer one, as I don't think the older setup would work as well for me. Still, the $98 Bike Bureau plus a Carradice of another variety is going to hover around $200 even from Citybikes, which is $100 more than the 2 Novaras. I might have just gone for it, but I also really, really need a new saddle, and I've got my eye on a B-67. My sit bone span really limits what I can use, my current saddle hurts my rear if I ride more than about 5 miles at a stretch. Not fun. Anyway, enough whining...