Hello!! Old Breadbutt
This is Tomity from Tokyo Japan

I inform you of about Ohtaki and Vivalo NJS frame.
It has neither Web site.

Ohtaki has the atelier in Tokyo.
It doesn't produce there in a small atelier recently.
Because,Ohtaki frame is unusual existence.

Vivalo has the atelier in Kobe near Osaka city
A lot of frames are produced in the atelier here.
It has the painting factory, and this atelier is beautiful painting
and a reputation.

It's my opinion
I like Ohtaki!! Because,It's beautiful frame works than Vivalo one
I recommend Ohtaki to be bought for you.

Please tell me your long story about it's frame deal

best regards

Japanese professional Keirin rider
Tomity