http://www.lookcycle.com/products/ge...7_geometry.pdf

http://www.orbea-usa.com/fly.aspx?mI...duct&taxId=226

I definitely like the way the Orbea looks, but if I were buying the bike to race I'd go with the 585 since the geometry is a bit more aggressive, and the frame/fork combo is 140g lighter in my size.