Originally Posted by joejack951

atbman, Thanks for the detailed reply. By the way you described how you would act in the various scenarios, it's obvious you've been cycling long enough in traffic to know how to safely navigate it.
Now, for all of those cycling newbs who don't have a clue and are supposed to be "instructed" by this roadway striping as to how to propoerly navigate this intersection, can you explain to me how the roadway striping instructs them to do what you just described?
Here's my thoughts, specifically directed at atbman and Bek but other can feel free to comment. I can see how bike boxes and bike lanes in certain areas can expedite moving through dense traffic for cyclists by clearing the way through intersections. For an experienced cyclist who knows how to read traffic and knows where the dangers lie in moving through traffic, this system can work out nicely. What I have a problem with is when these ideas are marketted at new cyclists (who don't have all the traffic skills necessary to utilize some of these accomodations safely) as a way to instruct them as to how navigate an intersection. The fact is that if you don't know to do it properly, no amount of roadway striping will indicate the proper way to do so. If the point is really to educate new cyclists, there are much more efficient and safer ways of doing so then bike lanes and bike boxes..............snip.....