Originally Posted by Sammyboy
Exactly, it means that. I don't know the answer re bar shifters though, don't think I fully understand why you'd need anything on the downtube with those.
Thanks for that. As for the bar shifters, there are no other stops for the outer cable on the frame. The back brake has loops for the full cable to go through, but the front and back mech will need stops somewhere between changer and deraillier to put the outer cable against. I've seen adaptors for tube shifters where you take the lever off and put an outer cable stop in it's place.
Again, thanks for the help.