BTW - I think the mod should make this discussion a sticky.

Alright...I've done numerous searches, but haven't quite found the answer to my questions. Lots of people have experience with Formula, IRO, Surly hubs. They seem pretty similar in quality from what I've read. Personally, I ride a formula rear hub and think it's solid. Other popular hubs are Phils and Pauls which are in another league, but aren't affordable for most of us. Dura Ace and Record are also in another class but most folks reserve these for the track and they aren't very affordable.

I'm interested in the hubs/wheels that fall in the in between category price wise. I've read some about Miche and Kogswell. Are these hubs really any better than Formula, IRO, Surly's? How smooth do they roll? Are they much lighter? Are they more durable? Any input is appreciated.

Here's my hierarchy of hubs as I understand it. Please feel free to correct. I guess this thread is more about hubs, but opinions about wheels are also welcome. I don't know all the brands, so obviously this doesn't include everything.

First tier (hubs that have a tendency to break):
Quando

Second tier (solid and affordable):
Formula
IRO
Surly

Third tier (more expensive but better?):
Kogswell
Miche

Fourth tier (high end and very expensive):
Phil Wood
Paul
Dura Ace (primarily for track use)
Record (primarily for track use)