Originally Posted by masiman
He asked for suggestions on a kick stand that he wants, not to be bashed for wanting one.
The ESGE model works very well. I have not seen one that works better. If I were to get one, that is the one I would get.
My comment was not aimed as kickstands, as much as the juxtapositon of kickstands, and CF water bottle cages. Seems rather odd to go to significant expense to shave every last gram, then put on a kickstand.