i guess i didn't do a whole of research on the topic of saddles, just enough to know that brooks were amazing and thats what i was looking for(quality, not specifically brooks). what i didn't know was that specialized made some damn good saddles as well. notice how i asked for possible alternatives. thank you xthugmurderx for the specialized suggestion, the alias is definatly a beautiful saddle. in fact i am probably gonna order it when i order my IRO next friday.

GirlAnachronism, you're probably right, but i was looking for people who know saddles, and this seemed like a good place to ask considering i've gotten some pretty excellent help here before.

and yeah, i probably should have reworded my original post and put more focus on alternatives other than how i made it look like i was having a mid life crisis which made me question all morals and values i have.