tetonrider

earlier in the thread you wrote that you are taking in 2300-2400/day on off days (=e.g., presumably "net calories"), and i wrote that i was amazed because if i take in >1600 net, i'm gaining weight.

you then suggested that i am starving myself and would do better to take in 2400 calories.

"net" means calories just to run my body through normal life, to maintain weight, as opposed to running an average daily deficit to lose weight and to taking in extra calories when you burn 1,000kJ on the bike (assuming one doesn't want to lose weight).

this is all related to your earlier post.

canuckbelle

I take in a bit more than I'm burning on off days to recover. I wasn't suggesting that my day-to-day calorie expenditure is 2400. It's closer to 2200.

tetonrider

that's the point--you've been stating (no uncertain terms) one is starving themself at 1,600 cal/day.

i know what my BMR is -- i've stated it by saying that 1600 cal/day is what it takes to maintain weight (you told me upping to 2400 will help lose weight). it won't.

just because the average male above 19 takes in 2,640 calories/day doesn't mean that is right; in fact, that has increased by 600 cal/day in 2-3 decades. as a society we are getting more obese, and most folks continue to do so as they age.

out of curiosity, when you talk about BMI being useless, which chart are you referencing, male or female? i remember a stat that said the average male who is just at the overweight point on the chart is 25% BF; the average female is 33%. of course BMI is all about averages, and we're talking about an average person at those breakpoints.

you didn't answer @Ygduf's question about height and weight w/r/t being classified as overweight. if you're 17% (how was that tested?), unless you have a massive amount of muscle i'm failing to see how BMI will let you down. that made me wonder about the male/female scale. (i mean it as a sincere question; your case may be... unique.)

topflightpro

I've noticed recently that if I eat any excess sugar - cookies, cake.... I immediately gain three to four pounds. It only stays on a couple days, but it is annoying.

I know that I need to cut all sugar out, and I do my best to avoid having it in the house - which is hard to do during the holidays - but what is even more difficult is that I have an incredible sweet tooth. For example, I used to buy giant chocolate cakes from Sam's Club to eat for breakfast. (Chocolate cake makes for an excellent breakfast.)

ancker

I have very strong self control when it comes to eating alone. I love food, but when I have a weight loss goal, I could eat exactly the same boring tasteless food every day and be happy.

I cannot for the life of me say 'no' when my wife asks if I want some cookies and milk (or something else sweet). And this is always at like 9pm, which is the worst possible time to eat snacks.

I have also noticed that when I have cookies/whatever my weight is skewed a bit for a few days.

jsk

I get the same thing, I call it sugar bloat.

Yeah baked goods and chocolately stuff are my downfall as well. I'm pretty good at moderation when it comes to most foods, but not that stuff.

I go ahead and let myself indulge around the holidays. but I try to prioritize it. Instead of eating all the treats I'm offered at parties and such, just focus on the stuff I really like.

I've been pretty good this year; normally I start gaining in early October (wife's b-day), then it continues with Thanksgiving, my b-day, and Christmas/New Years's such that I've put on 10-12 lbs by Jan 1. This year I managed to keep my weight steady until my b-day last week. Right now I'm up 3-4 lbs but I'm hoping some of that is temporary bloat from too much cake. Gonna try to get some extra miles on the bike the next two weeks to give myself some extra calories to work with over Christmas/New Years.

ancker

I survived the holidays. 154.3lbs.
Pretty much stable since my work trip in November, +/- 1-2lbs.

I start my training plan next week. So my focus on weight loss will end, but I'll still try to keep the excess food to a minimum.
I joined a study that intends to test the effects of using online training tools (e.g. Zwift) as motivators for training.
So I basically get 16 weeks of free coaching with 3-4 structured workouts a week and regular communication/evaluation with a coach.

topflightpro

Nice job Acker.

My weight has gone up and down the last couple weeks, but during this morning's weigh in, I was about a pound up from the lowest weight I've recorded this year. Ultimately, I'd like to drop another 3-4 pounds of fat, but I know that will require a major change in diet and a substantial commitment to "clean eating," and I'm just not sure I want to do that.

canuckbelle

Almost down to our goal of <170lbs ^_^ If I get down to <165, I'll be extremely happy. Big volume weeks coming up, so that should help. I'm trying to limit my eating on the bike for the base miles rides.

ancker

Yesterday weighed in at: 150.8lbs and 15.1% Body Fat.
Down from Oct 1st: 165.4lbs and 20.3% Body Fat.

Original goal was 150lbs. Thinking about adjusting that to a 'stretch goal' of 145.
I'm in the middle of a training program, so I'm not cutting calories anymore. But still watching my intake and making sure to avoid excess.
100% of my riding since then has been inside. So other than clothes fitting a little looser, nothing much noticeable. Power is about the same or maybe a little higher. Hopefully I'll notice a big gain once I get back outside for a ride.

Ygduf

I'm jelly.

Enthalpic

^ chew more gum.

Ygduf

listen, the nicotine gum may have lost its novelty and weight-loss-aid efficacy, but my dentist was delighted with the depth of my periodontal pockets.

ancker

Holding steady around 150lbs/68kg. Gonna take a special kick to get down to my new goal of 145.
Training plan is very busy, so I'm eating more to compensate, so I'm not pushing the weight loss as much.

dz_nuzz

My recent sabbatical from work has helped me lose some weight. I think I benefitted most from riding mid-day so that I lost a meal. Then holding out till later in the day to eat again. "Sadly" the vacation ends this coming Tuesday so I will be back to fighting off the hordes of goldfish. The one benefit though is that I got re-hired onto a team that has another bike racer on it and we both are trying to drop the poundage so we will hold each other to our diets (or so I hope).

I know the simplest approach is just to eat less, but that has always been a struggle for me. I think I have made gains by just cutting out dairy (except for half-and-half for my coffee, I am not giving up enjoying my coffee). For me, it just cut out all the yogurt and cheese I loved.

I wish I had more to go on / figure out. I just know that the only way I have ever really lost weight is to be obsessive about chopping things out. It makes me sad, but the weight loss this year has been worth it. Or so I hope.

The real struggle will be trying to go back to some type of non-restrictive diet. I have always been good at staying stable, and I can only hope that proves top be true again this year.

Surfer3287

I'm not having issues with overall weight loss, but I do struggle with the sagging "belly" while riding in the past few months. I will definitely try to cut out more sugar, as it seems several people suffer from the same "sugar bloat". I do love my yogurt like @dz_nuzz, so I may need to experiment in cutting that out as well.

At 5'9" and 135, I simply don't have that much weight to possibly lose, so I think some extra core work might be that real solution to stopping myself from looking like I have a beer gut during a post-lunch ride.

I just wish I had some hills to use this weight "advantage". Here in Florida, I just seem to be the scrawny one in the pack that can't hang on in the crits.

gerundium

Sounds eerily similar to me. 174 cm and 62.5 kg right now. Ideally losing 1 more kilo before half of march and keeping steady from then on. It will do me good for exactly 3 events upcoming season, the rest is all flat crits / circuits / road races.

topflightpro

My wife is on a big weight loss kick right now, which is helping me get my weight going back in the right direction. Granted, I was only up a couple of pounds, but for the past two weeks, I've consistently weighed in under 160. I'd like to get down to about 155, if I can. That would put me at the same weight I graduated high school 20 years ago. Of course, regardless of whether I get down to 155, my waist is about three inches slimmer than when I graduated HS.

Wylde06

Bunch of lightweights.


I would be super happy to race at 190, which is about 13-15 pounds from where im at now

JoesInBoston

I have been losing about a pound a week and am currently at 145. Current goal is 140 with a stretch goal of 135. I've found that eating more protein than I am used to has helped curb my hunger quite a bit on days when I don't ride. I usually snack on pre-cooked chicken and edamame. A treat for me lately (on days that I am being strict about my diet) has been oatmega bars. Any flavor gets a thumbs up from me.

TexMac

I've had the myfitness pal for a year and it's been telling me i should weigh 140 lbs for the past year I'm always under 1k cal but think my problem is lifting and too much sugar since i drink about 4 cups of green tea with sugar. This year i've cut off sugar and almonds unless i'm riding, also focusing on light weights high reps and more decling pushups, chinups, pullups, planks and less weights.
I snack on, bananas, pumpkin seeds and sardines and have lost 5 lbs in 3 months . Need to keep on eating salads days i don't ride. Been cooking lentils and quinoa soups for lunch, think of cutting milk even tho i have no stomach issues