2005 Critérium du Dauphiné Libéré (spoilers)
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Today's top six: 1. Vinokourov, 2. Gomez-Marchante, 3. Van Huffel, 4. Armstrong, 5. Landis, 6. Kashechkin
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So looks like Lance will never win on Ventoux....
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Top 20... looks like Botero and Pereiro blew up pretty good... Landis held tough though.
Given Vino's style he might actually have a go tomorrow too.. There will probably be a re-shuffling on Saturday again though... guess Vino WAS working on his climbing.. Lance was a little shaky on this one... Saturday may be pretty rough... guess we'll see
Results
1 Alexandre Vinokourov (Kaz) T-Mobile Team 4.07.23 (44.14 km/h)
2 Jose Gomez Marchante (Spa) Saunier Duval-Prodir 0.06
3 Wim Van Huffel (Bel) Davitamon-Lotto 0.16
4 Lance Armstrong (USA) Discovery Channel Pro Cycling Team 0.37
5 Floyd Landis (USA) Phonak Hearing Systems 0.41
6 Andrey Kashechkin (Kaz) Credit Agricole 0.43
7 Levi Leipheimer (USA) Gerolsteiner 0.46
8 Inigo Landaluze (Spa) Euskaltel-Euskadi 1.31
9 Nicolas Fritsch (Fra) Saunier Duval-Prodir 1.36
10 David Moncoutie (Fra) Cofidis, Le Credit Par Telephone 1.45
11 Marzio Bruseghin (Ita) Fassa Bortolo 2.17
12 Christophe Moreau (Fra) Credit Agricole 2.35
13 Francisco Mancebo (Spa) Illes Balears-Caisse d'Epargne 2.39
14 Denis Menchov (Rus) Rabobank 2.40
15 Oscar Pereiro (Spa) Phonak Hearing Systems 2.48
16 Santiago Botero (Col) Phonak Hearing Systems 2.59
17 Manuel Beltran (Spa) Discovery Channel Pro Cycling Team 3.18
18 David Arroyo (Spa) Illes Balears-Caisse d'Epargne 4.05
19 Stephane Goubert (Fra) Ag2r Prevoyance 4.12
20 Alexandre Botcharov (Rus) Credit Agricole 4.24
General classification after stage 4
1 Levi Leipheimer (USA) Gerolsteiner 15.19.29
2 Lance Armstrong (USA) Discovery Channel Pro Cycling Team 0.21
3 Alexandre Vinokourov (Kaz) T-Mobile Team 0.26
4 Floyd Landis (USA) Phonak Hearing Systems 0.47
5 Andrey Kashechkin (Kaz) Credit Agricole 2.00
6 Santiago Botero (Col) Phonak Hearing Systems 2.25
7 Jose Gomez Marchante (Spa) Saunier Duval-Prodir 2.53
8 Marzio Bruseghin (Ita) Fassa Bortolo 3.07
9 Oscar Pereiro (Spa) Phonak Hearing Systems 3.16
10 David Moncoutie (Fra) Cofidis, Le Credit Par Telephone 3.45
11 Inigo Landaluze (Spa) Euskaltel-Euskadi 4.30
12 Christophe Moreau (Fra) Credit Agricole 4.39
13 Denis Menchov (Rus) Rabobank 5.08
14 Wim Van Huffel (Bel) Davitamon-Lotto 5.25
15 Nicolas Fritsch (Fra) Saunier Duval-Prodir
16 Mikel Astarloza (Spa) Ag2r Prevoyance 6.47
17 Francisco Mancebo (Spa) Illes Balears-Caisse d'Epargne 7.04
18 Massimo Giunti (Ita) Fassa Bortolo 7.21
19 Ivan Gutierrez (Spa) Illes Balears-Caisse d'Epargne 8.03
20 Jose Gutierrez (Spa) Phonak Hearing Systems 8.09
Given Vino's style he might actually have a go tomorrow too.. There will probably be a re-shuffling on Saturday again though... guess Vino WAS working on his climbing.. Lance was a little shaky on this one... Saturday may be pretty rough... guess we'll see
Results
1 Alexandre Vinokourov (Kaz) T-Mobile Team 4.07.23 (44.14 km/h)
2 Jose Gomez Marchante (Spa) Saunier Duval-Prodir 0.06
3 Wim Van Huffel (Bel) Davitamon-Lotto 0.16
4 Lance Armstrong (USA) Discovery Channel Pro Cycling Team 0.37
5 Floyd Landis (USA) Phonak Hearing Systems 0.41
6 Andrey Kashechkin (Kaz) Credit Agricole 0.43
7 Levi Leipheimer (USA) Gerolsteiner 0.46
8 Inigo Landaluze (Spa) Euskaltel-Euskadi 1.31
9 Nicolas Fritsch (Fra) Saunier Duval-Prodir 1.36
10 David Moncoutie (Fra) Cofidis, Le Credit Par Telephone 1.45
11 Marzio Bruseghin (Ita) Fassa Bortolo 2.17
12 Christophe Moreau (Fra) Credit Agricole 2.35
13 Francisco Mancebo (Spa) Illes Balears-Caisse d'Epargne 2.39
14 Denis Menchov (Rus) Rabobank 2.40
15 Oscar Pereiro (Spa) Phonak Hearing Systems 2.48
16 Santiago Botero (Col) Phonak Hearing Systems 2.59
17 Manuel Beltran (Spa) Discovery Channel Pro Cycling Team 3.18
18 David Arroyo (Spa) Illes Balears-Caisse d'Epargne 4.05
19 Stephane Goubert (Fra) Ag2r Prevoyance 4.12
20 Alexandre Botcharov (Rus) Credit Agricole 4.24
General classification after stage 4
1 Levi Leipheimer (USA) Gerolsteiner 15.19.29
2 Lance Armstrong (USA) Discovery Channel Pro Cycling Team 0.21
3 Alexandre Vinokourov (Kaz) T-Mobile Team 0.26
4 Floyd Landis (USA) Phonak Hearing Systems 0.47
5 Andrey Kashechkin (Kaz) Credit Agricole 2.00
6 Santiago Botero (Col) Phonak Hearing Systems 2.25
7 Jose Gomez Marchante (Spa) Saunier Duval-Prodir 2.53
8 Marzio Bruseghin (Ita) Fassa Bortolo 3.07
9 Oscar Pereiro (Spa) Phonak Hearing Systems 3.16
10 David Moncoutie (Fra) Cofidis, Le Credit Par Telephone 3.45
11 Inigo Landaluze (Spa) Euskaltel-Euskadi 4.30
12 Christophe Moreau (Fra) Credit Agricole 4.39
13 Denis Menchov (Rus) Rabobank 5.08
14 Wim Van Huffel (Bel) Davitamon-Lotto 5.25
15 Nicolas Fritsch (Fra) Saunier Duval-Prodir
16 Mikel Astarloza (Spa) Ag2r Prevoyance 6.47
17 Francisco Mancebo (Spa) Illes Balears-Caisse d'Epargne 7.04
18 Massimo Giunti (Ita) Fassa Bortolo 7.21
19 Ivan Gutierrez (Spa) Illes Balears-Caisse d'Epargne 8.03
20 Jose Gutierrez (Spa) Phonak Hearing Systems 8.09
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So were they all together at the base and Vino pulled away, or was he in a break at the base that never got caught? That's great for Vino. Ever since his friend Andrei Kivilev died in that tragic Paris-Nice crash a couple of years ago, he seems to have been riding for the both of them.
Levi lost time to Lance today, but only 9 seconds, so still has the overall lead by 21 seconds. Considering he's recovering from yesterday's all-out effort in the TT, that's very good.
Can Levi hold on?
Who's eating crow about Botero?
Tomorrow's stage looks tailor made for Vino:
Levi lost time to Lance today, but only 9 seconds, so still has the overall lead by 21 seconds. Considering he's recovering from yesterday's all-out effort in the TT, that's very good.
Can Levi hold on?
Who's eating crow about Botero?
Tomorrow's stage looks tailor made for Vino:
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Originally Posted by Helmet Head
Originally Posted by Walter
How much time do you think Levi is going to put into [Botero]?
Originally Posted by doctorSpoc
hey Helment Head... i hope you like the tase of crow.. think you might be eating a lot of it come tomorrow... Leipheimer is riding good for sure but I think you are selling Botero a little short...
7 Levi Leipheimer (USA) Gerolsteiner 0.46
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16 Santiago Botero (Col) Phonak Hearing Systems 2.59
2:13
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Were they required to wear their helmets to the finish atop Ventoux today? Or does Vino always keep his lid on?
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Well both Botero and Levi got dropped today so we both have a little bit of crow to be eating... although given the time differential I'll eat 2/3 of it
Van Huffel, Armstrong, Vinokourov, Kashechkin, Landis, Leipheimer, Jaksche, Menchov, Moncoutié, Fritsch, Gomez-Marchante, Landaluze together all catch the lone member of the break at 5k to go. Van Huffel takes off get 45 sec... Gomez-Marchante takes off with Leipheimer and Vinokourov in tow... Armstrong and Landis are yo-yoing off the back of the case group a few times... Vino and Gomez-Marchante drop Levi and pick up Van Huffel at 2.5k to go... Van Huffel loses contact with about 1k to go and at 300m Vino take off and wins...
Zaballa, Gutierrez, Jaksche were in the early break... Gutierrez and Jaksche hung on to the case for a little while but got spit out.. think it was Gutierrez who was the last hold out
Van Huffel, Armstrong, Vinokourov, Kashechkin, Landis, Leipheimer, Jaksche, Menchov, Moncoutié, Fritsch, Gomez-Marchante, Landaluze together all catch the lone member of the break at 5k to go. Van Huffel takes off get 45 sec... Gomez-Marchante takes off with Leipheimer and Vinokourov in tow... Armstrong and Landis are yo-yoing off the back of the case group a few times... Vino and Gomez-Marchante drop Levi and pick up Van Huffel at 2.5k to go... Van Huffel loses contact with about 1k to go and at 300m Vino take off and wins...
Zaballa, Gutierrez, Jaksche were in the early break... Gutierrez and Jaksche hung on to the case for a little while but got spit out.. think it was Gutierrez who was the last hold out
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Originally Posted by Helmet Head
7 Levi Leipheimer (USA) Gerolsteiner 0.46
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16 Santiago Botero (Col) Phonak Hearing Systems 2.59
2:13
Originally Posted by Helmet Head
I predict ... Levi, who will win, and take at least a minute out of Botero.
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Originally Posted by Helmet Head
(Botero)... is a tt specialist and he has won the main tt in the Dauphine before (2002).
I predict Botero will lose time tomorrow on Ventoux, especially to Levi, who will win, and will take at least a minute out of Botero.
I predict Botero will lose time tomorrow on Ventoux, especially to Levi, who will win, and will take at least a minute out of Botero.
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Well, if wasn't for just 6 other guys, Levi would have won. I'll take it.
So what about tomorrow? A lot of climbs, but nothing over a cat 2, and a final 9km descent at the end could bring it all together for the leaders at the end.
My only prediction is that Levi will retain the lead.
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So what about tomorrow? A lot of climbs, but nothing over a cat 2, and a final 9km descent at the end could bring it all together for the leaders at the end.
My only prediction is that Levi will retain the lead.
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Originally Posted by Helmet Head
I predict Botero will lose time tomorrow on Ventoux, especially to Levi, who will win, and will take at least a minute out of Botero..
My only prediction is that Levi will retain the lead.
My only prediction is that Levi will retain the lead.
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Nice. Take two statements out of the contexts in which they were made in separate posts, splice them together, and correct me? Very nice.
My only prediction ABOUT TOMORROW is that Levi will retain the lead.
My only prediction ABOUT TOMORROW is that Levi will retain the lead.
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Originally Posted by doctorSpoc
just to be clear... yeah you did give a differential and you were right there, but you did also pick Leipheimer to win and he was 46 sec back... so open up wide and eat your crow.. it's good for you...
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Originally Posted by RiDE
I think you're the one with the bigger crow to eat since you're the one who said he will have to eat it today.
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I'm just having fun seeing everyone jump on th e Levi bandwagon. This is where the arguements about his racing ability pay off! : P GO LEVI!
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Axel Merckx wins today's stage going away.
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Inigo Landaluze is now the leader on GC according to Eurosport while Cyclingnews says it's still Levi.
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Was this a miscalculation by Gerolsteiner/Discovery/T-Mobile? Judging by Landaluze's performance on the Ventoux yesterday (8th, 1:31 behind Vino, 0:45 behind Levi) he may be able to hang onto the overall classification tomorrow. He will have a lead of 2:51/3:12/3:17 over Leipheimer/Armstrong/Vino according to this: https://www.criterium.ledauphine.com/...ssement_35.pdf
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Originally Posted by rygreen
Was this a miscalculation by Gerolsteiner/Discovery/T-Mobile? Judging by Landaluze's performance on the Ventoux yesterday (8th, 1:31 behind Vino, 0:45 behind Levi) he may be able to hang onto the overall classification tomorrow. He will have a lead of 2:51/3:12/3:17 over Leipheimer/Armstrong/Vino according to this: https://www.criterium.ledauphine.com/...ssement_35.pdf
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Originally Posted by rygreen
Was this a miscalculation by Gerolsteiner/Discovery/T-Mobile?
Discovery had noval up there, so they had tagged the escapees.
Landaluze could very well win this , especially if everyone is watching the tachometer.
edited to add: updated results show more than two Gerolsteiner riders finished, but the rest were well off the back...no help to Levi.
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Originally Posted by waltergodefroot
Gerolsteiner only had two riders finish the race according to the cyclingnews results, Rebellin and Leipheimer. Levi crashed on the final descent, but don't know if that had an impact on his position. It appears something happened to the team.
Discovery had noval up there, so they had tagged the escapees.
Landaluze could very easily win this, especially if everyone is watching the tachometer.
Discovery had noval up there, so they had tagged the escapees.
Landaluze could very easily win this, especially if everyone is watching the tachometer.