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Thanks.
That bike was a bit of a mutt. A trek carbon frame, one of the old aluminum lugged and glued ones, and a mix of tricolor Ultegra and DA. Yes, those are the first generation Ultegra sti levers. The whole thing held up surprisingly well, given that almost every race had a bit of pave, some more than others.
That bike was a bit of a mutt. A trek carbon frame, one of the old aluminum lugged and glued ones, and a mix of tricolor Ultegra and DA. Yes, those are the first generation Ultegra sti levers. The whole thing held up surprisingly well, given that almost every race had a bit of pave, some more than others.
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Taking the field sprint yesterday at the Early Bird #2 1/2/3's race.
Much thanks to @Ygduf and other guys on my team for making guys chase!
Photo by NorcalCyclingPhotos: Early Bird #2
(he's on our team btw, and is ok with us "stealing" these photos)
Much thanks to @Ygduf and other guys on my team for making guys chase!
Photo by NorcalCyclingPhotos: Early Bird #2
(he's on our team btw, and is ok with us "stealing" these photos)
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Great pics guys, @mattm splendid work beating out Teejay*
@Hermes way to charge it!
@Ygduf I'm stuck on the dude in the background, is he making a big life decision, reflecting on the past....we'll never know! Also the guy on your wheel is checking you out.
*I'm assuming that's some dude that bought a bmc kit at WalMart or is it an actual team member?
@Hermes way to charge it!
@Ygduf I'm stuck on the dude in the background, is he making a big life decision, reflecting on the past....we'll never know! Also the guy on your wheel is checking you out.
*I'm assuming that's some dude that bought a bmc kit at WalMart or is it an actual team member?
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I give him a pass since he's only 19, so he's just barely an adult!
He'll be in our kit soon enough, they're coming in this week I hear.
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you're teasing a kid who won 2013 17/18 elite track nationals. 1/68, so it's not like there was no competition
(to be clear, he's talented but his bike is noisy and he has literally no calves. weirdest thing!)
(to be clear, he's talented but his bike is noisy and he has literally no calves. weirdest thing!)
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ooh. this is me looking sexy before ultimately losing. guy on my wheel is a 2x dutch tt champ and we couldn't stay away? say it ain't so!
I will say I am proud of this picture because I had to bridge to said TT champ, who was on my team and out solo. I managed to surf the chases and jump across solo. So that's something at least.
thanks to sylvia, the norcalcyclingphoto gal
I will say I am proud of this picture because I had to bridge to said TT champ, who was on my team and out solo. I managed to surf the chases and jump across solo. So that's something at least.
thanks to sylvia, the norcalcyclingphoto gal
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ooh. this is me looking sexy before ultimately losing. guy on my wheel is a 2x dutch tt champ and we couldn't stay away? say it ain't so!
I will say I am proud of this picture because I had to bridge to said TT champ, who was on my team and out solo. I managed to surf the chases and jump across solo. So that's something at least.
thanks to sylvia, the norcalcyclingphoto gal
I will say I am proud of this picture because I had to bridge to said TT champ, who was on my team and out solo. I managed to surf the chases and jump across solo. So that's something at least.
thanks to sylvia, the norcalcyclingphoto gal
peloton sees 1 guy they might let him dangle. 2 teammates? seems like it is kicking the bees' nest.
not criticizing, just curious about the situation in that race and wondering in general.
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cool pic. i should have learned from the race-rig porn thread that we are not allowed to make any tangential comments, but i had a question about bridging to your teammate. that's obviously pretty tough to do (so cool that you did it) -- but in terms of strategy is something like that going to actually reduce your teammate's chances to bridge to the break (or at least finish ahead of the field)?
peloton sees 1 guy they might let him dangle. 2 teammates? seems like it is kicking the bees' nest.
not criticizing, just curious about the situation in that race and wondering in general.
peloton sees 1 guy they might let him dangle. 2 teammates? seems like it is kicking the bees' nest.
not criticizing, just curious about the situation in that race and wondering in general.
It's fine for a training race, but in a real race I'd yell. I told @Ygduf as much after the race!
Taking a free ride up is one thing, but hammering into the wind after your team mate just seems wrong to me.
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I agree, that since we already had a guy up the road in the break, trying to bridge is just agitating the peloton.. in this case it was a relatively weak/unorganized peloton.
It's fine for a training race, but in a real race I'd yell. I told @Ygduf as much after the race!
Taking a free ride up is one thing, but hammering into the wind after your team mate just seems wrong to me.
It's fine for a training race, but in a real race I'd yell. I told @Ygduf as much after the race!
Taking a free ride up is one thing, but hammering into the wind after your team mate just seems wrong to me.
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I agree, that since we already had a guy up the road in the break, trying to bridge is just agitating the peloton.. in this case it was a relatively weak/unorganized peloton.
It's fine for a training race, but in a real race I'd yell. I told @Ygduf as much after the race!
Taking a free ride up is one thing, but hammering into the wind after your team mate just seems wrong to me.
It's fine for a training race, but in a real race I'd yell. I told @Ygduf as much after the race!
Taking a free ride up is one thing, but hammering into the wind after your team mate just seems wrong to me.
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I agree, that since we already had a guy up the road in the break, trying to bridge is just agitating the peloton.. in this case it was a relatively weak/unorganized peloton.
It's fine for a training race, but in a real race I'd yell. I told @Ygduf as much after the race!
Taking a free ride up is one thing, but hammering into the wind after your team mate just seems wrong to me.
It's fine for a training race, but in a real race I'd yell. I told @Ygduf as much after the race!
Taking a free ride up is one thing, but hammering into the wind after your team mate just seems wrong to me.
I didn't attack from the pack at all. I was being a good soldier and sitting in. The guy in the pic with me did attack from the pack to try and bridge up, so yell at him!
I just surfed a 4-man bridge attempt that petered out. I was already far ahead of the pack when I felt that group give up, so I jumped and went up solo. I thought the two of us had the only legit chance to catch the break (which would have put 3 teammates in a 5-man break) and judged the pack too weak to close the break down without my or Giel's help anyway.
So, the break, in my mind, was totally safe either way. I practiced using other guy's work to get up to my teammate (without bringing anyone at all) who was solo in no man's land.
Anyway, reasonable minds can disagree. I don't think I made an unwise racing decision, though.
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It's a fair question and this is revisionist history!
I didn't attack from the pack at all. I was being a good soldier and sitting in. The guy in the pic with me did attack from the pack to try and bridge up, so yell at him!
I just surfed a 4-man bridge attempt that petered out. I was already far ahead of the pack when I felt that group give up, so I jumped and went up solo. I thought the two of us had the only legit chance to catch the break (which would have put 3 teammates in a 5-man break) and judged the pack too weak to close the break down without my or Giel's help anyway.
So, the break, in my mind, was totally safe either way. I practiced using other guy's work to get up to my teammate (without bringing anyone at all) who was solo in no man's land.
Anyway, reasonable minds can disagree. I don't think I made an unwise racing decision, though.
I didn't attack from the pack at all. I was being a good soldier and sitting in. The guy in the pic with me did attack from the pack to try and bridge up, so yell at him!
I just surfed a 4-man bridge attempt that petered out. I was already far ahead of the pack when I felt that group give up, so I jumped and went up solo. I thought the two of us had the only legit chance to catch the break (which would have put 3 teammates in a 5-man break) and judged the pack too weak to close the break down without my or Giel's help anyway.
So, the break, in my mind, was totally safe either way. I practiced using other guy's work to get up to my teammate (without bringing anyone at all) who was solo in no man's land.
Anyway, reasonable minds can disagree. I don't think I made an unwise racing decision, though.
But you're right, you didn't just attack from the pack at least..
Still, I think if we have a guy in the break, our job is just to shut down attempts by sitting on, getting a free ride up if you're lucky. Yeah it's boring, but we gotta have faith in our guy!
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I did yell at Giel, on FB anyway. =]
But you're right, you didn't just attack from the pack at least..
Still, I think if we have a guy in the break, our job is just to shut down attempts by sitting on, getting a free ride up if you're lucky. Yeah it's boring, but we gotta have faith in our guy!
But you're right, you didn't just attack from the pack at least..
Still, I think if we have a guy in the break, our job is just to shut down attempts by sitting on, getting a free ride up if you're lucky. Yeah it's boring, but we gotta have faith in our guy!
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Out of curiosity, what is Fudgy's (or anyone really) obligation in that instance? Sounds like a group of 3 or so were attempting a bridge, he sat on, and bridge exploded. Should he fall back to the group and resume covering or, with a reasonable gap in place, attempt the move he made? I guess if there isn't lone soldier in no mans land, you'd just fall back and cover the next bridge?
There's no right answer. @mattm says to never chase. I knew in my heart of hearts that the pack was weak and the guys most interesting in bridging just tried and failed, so the break was safe.
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Out of curiosity, what is Fudgy's (or anyone really) obligation in that instance? Sounds like a group of 3 or so were attempting a bridge, he sat on, and bridge exploded. Should he fall back to the group and resume covering or, with a reasonable gap in place, attempt the move he made? I guess if there isn't lone soldier in no mans land, you'd just fall back and cover the next bridge?