aaronmcd

By Erik Cho from Red Kite crit a week ago. Don't know what part or which race this was, but I presume I was either attacking, or OTF and hoping for help near the beginning of the 2/3 race. I'm guessing attack, because I'm not settled into IAB.

canuckbelle

You racing in Charleston today?

shovelhd

Good luck at Speed Week.

canuckbelle

...hoping my race has more than the current 4 registered racers :/ I really hate that they have a women's 3/4 and a women's p/1/2/3. Including 3's into the p/1/2 killed my race. It should have been p/1/2 and 3/4. Also, they put the 3/4 women right before the KIDS' race...which seems a little insulting. Women...then kids...then the 'real' races. Come on.

Doge

From Huy Bui (TRU), Sea Otter 17-18 RR.
Near end. This group is 8 min ahead.


17-18 RR finish - Win!


Early in the Sea Otter CR Peter Newlands (as watermarked)



The CR solo win by another team dad Julio Hernandez



From 17-18 CR

rankin116

Nice to see you back!

Ygduf

of the races I've actually won, not ONE picture of me winning. I'm like 0/10. Even districts RR!

Andy STi

Since I'm bored at work...

Here are some shots from a couple weeks ago at Gorge Roubaix in Oregon.

I'm in the flow green on the right in the first pic









Pics from FB - didn't see the photogs name.

Andy STi

Great pics of the little rugrats. Just showed Cam's dad.

furiousferret

That 2nd pic is awesome @Andy STi

Edonis13

Wow, those are awesome shots!

Doge

Appears dirt roads are a little less dusty in Oregon than in CA. Oregon is beautiful (did a Stage race for my Honeymoon there). Still - what is it with all these dirt road races?

canuckbelle

I won the Cat 3/4 Women's race by a few bike lengths ^_^

furiousferret

It doesn't count if you're riding a motorcycle!





(Grats )

spectastic

fit experts, is my handlebar too low/stretched out? I think my back should be flatter

Ygduf

^^ looks fine to me. try saddle up a bit if my guesttimate is good

hack

Back flatness (or lack thereof) could also be a result of saddle choice and inability to roll your hips forward. I've gone to a SMP saddle (huge cutout) that allows me to roll my rips a lot more than my older saddles and my taint is very appreciative of that.

spdntrxi

yep.. I've gone to the Specialized Power for the same reason.

hack

A few guys I ride with are on that and it looks nice. I might have to try one out. Much cheaper than the SMPs as well. Flatter too if you're worried about the swoopy shape of the SMP.

spectastic

I could try rotating my saddle forward, which will allow the hips to rotate forward more, but it puts more stress on my shoulder. I'm thinking I need to raise the bar about 5-10 mm

saddle's romin evo btw

Doge

I wouldn't think there was anything wrong with your position from that picture. The angle of leg to torso looks good, from that one position.
The power you are putting out also has an affect on the comfort of your flatter position. Of course you could make yourself flatter, but that also may make you slower - depending on the course and other things. Fit is not a visual thing alone.

I was forced to get into fitting as my kid is a developing rider with multiple bikes and types of races his does. Things get changed all the time. While his height has remained the same for 2 years - his bike fitting has not. Positions are change for a race based on race type/conditions, and his riding ability (changes). Its hard to tell with developing riders if what you did was a correlation or causation, just that there are variables besides what looks good.

rankin116

I thought I've seen you write this before, but you change his position from race to race, depending on the race? Why?

Doge

Best power is usually not most aero, sometimes a more acute angle between torso and legs is worth the power loss. Some Tri and TT riders (my wife) develop different musculature to support that position, but as its not the mainstay of a road racer, there is a power loss getting very flat. Long races its better not to have as much weight on arms. Bumpy roads legs can provide shock. More power takes some weight off arms.

Some examples all this year on Venge road bike, once on Tarmac. Not going into the TT bike setups:
TT (Merckx) VOS: Flat course, aero mattered most, so lost wee power and went flatter and closed torso leg angle. Raised seat and brought saddle forward. We chose to keep a RR bike seat and the seat nose UCI 5cm behind BB (there were no UCI requirement's, just no time to get used to a very new position far forward). Triathletes do not have this UCI/5mm limitation and many run saddle forward / use TT saddle.

Paris Roubaix juniors: Tarmac. More upright, lower saddle, less power course so legs can be used a bit to cushion jarring and less weight on hands.

Sea Otter RR 2 days later than CR (reversing chronological order so I can put the video below) - same bike, one week after PR: Seat back and lower a wee bit vs. CR. Done for bumps, climbing, and longer time in saddle than in the CR.

Sea Otter CR:Same bike as VOS TT course smooth, short, higher seat, more power road seat position. Body was higher/not as flat as VOS TT. Also supported that forearm on bar position for solo stuff. As I have a clip:
https://vimeo.com/126378398

TheKillerPenguin

I was fit by a pretty well known guru that did a lot of Postal Service back in the day and I was pretty quick on flat ground but I couldn't generate any power at all, so I would get dropped basically any time the road turned upward. I was just really, really slippery. Most aero does not necessarily equate to best. That said now that I've got my **** together I'm kind of curious to get my cross section that small again to see if my body would adapt to it, but I'll wait til the end of the season to try these shenanigans out.

Doge

A lot can be done learning to roll shoulders. Narrow bars, narrow hoods help. The new FSA bars now are narrower at the hoods than the ends as are the ENVE SES.