donrhummy

There's only one way to minimize doping (note I did not say eliminate it): You set a minimum time to finish the race and anyone who's faster than that is elminated. So basically you're saying something like: "Whoever crosses the finish line first in 98 hours or more (and NOT less) wins the race. If you finish in 97 hours you're disqualified." And you'd do the same for every stage too. That's it. There's no other solution.

mollusk

So can you get time bonuses where they ADD time?

DocRay

That is the single dumbest suggestion I've read to date. So rider's are incapable of slowing down?

Enthalpic

Agreed.

HillMut

A horrible, horrible idea this is.
Someone mentioned public hangings... thats a start.

PedalMasher

Make the races easier so riders don't feel the need to dope.

Duke of Kent

If the races are easier, then they just go faster...and to get faster, they take PEDs.

I can't believe I've responded to this thread...

recursive

Just make the slowest person the winner, but give everyone a medal for effort and personal achievement.

Then there will be none of that negativity.

donrhummy

You're all missing the point. I'm not actually suggesting it, what I'm saying is that this is the only way to truly stop doping. In other words, there's no way to stop it without changing the competition itself. Testing obviously doesn't work and you're not gonna get the riders to stop as long as they make money off winning.

mollusk

To stop doping you would have to change the culture of bike racing. In golf the culture is that you just don't cheat. In order to stop doping in cycling you would need to develop the same sort of culture. In other words it would have to become a middle class activity. While it is moving in that direction in the US, I don't see it happening worldwide.

donrhummy

See that other post (somewhere on bikeforums) where they show that a number of golfers are doping.

And baseball is definitely an upper middle class sport yet they've got plenty of drug use.

urbanknight

You have just wasted 10 precious seconds of my life

botto 

incorrect.

doofo

youve obviously never doped!

donrhummy

OK, name it then.

botto 

i'll leave the backseat driving to you.

donrhummy

Nice try. You obviously are "back seat critiquing" as you've stated this solution is not the only one and there's another way. To claim that, you must KNOW of another way. What is it?

pcates

the only solution is to replace the riders with robots......robots with guns.

Lithuania

I wonder if all those dominican and latin american players would agree with you.

mollusk

Aren't they all Ivy League guys?

vantassell

If you're not cheating, you're not trying hard enough

mezza

I've said it before and I'll say it again - Just let em dope. Juice em up and watch them go!!

2 leagues...

One showboating WWF style league for the juicers and a 2nd league that is clean and tested.

ElJamoquio

That would be like the current league that's tested?

rruff

If it was possible to ensure that someone was clean via testing, all the pros would be clean now.