base training and a schedule
10-25-07, 11:38 AM
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I never said I was limited on time nor did I say the gym would help you in an aerobic event (like a long RR). I get 12-15 hours a week and my statement said guys with the aerobic base and intervals and the gym, not the guy trying to cram a workout in on his 60 minute lunch break. I'm not an exercise physiologist but I know than coming off marathon running it was very beneficial to add some muscle. I came into cycling at 140lbs and my ability to cover a break, sprint and TT has improved significantly since adding some muscle.
10-25-07, 12:04 PM
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I came off of track training the year before I started cycling, and being in sub 4:30 mile shape a couple of days before I got my bike, a little over two years ago now.
I've gained no muscle mass, but a little bit of fat. Digital scale with body fat measurements told me this. 20min max has gone from below 300 to 330 this past year. 50w+gain in 1min max. Again, no gain in muscle mass. Just aerobic development and adaptation to cycling. Still at 141-2. Going DOWN to 137 for next year.
Whatever transformation has happened in my body has come solely from riding my bike. I've never been particularly slender, and my arms will never been skinny. Might have thrown a pound or two away up top and replaced it on the bottom half through riding, but no weight lifting involved. I know that my ability on the bike is limited by the amount of oxygen I'm able to process, not the muscle mass I have.
I can find pictures, I'm sure, to show this. Let me dig around.
I've gained no muscle mass, but a little bit of fat. Digital scale with body fat measurements told me this. 20min max has gone from below 300 to 330 this past year. 50w+gain in 1min max. Again, no gain in muscle mass. Just aerobic development and adaptation to cycling. Still at 141-2. Going DOWN to 137 for next year.
Whatever transformation has happened in my body has come solely from riding my bike. I've never been particularly slender, and my arms will never been skinny. Might have thrown a pound or two away up top and replaced it on the bottom half through riding, but no weight lifting involved. I know that my ability on the bike is limited by the amount of oxygen I'm able to process, not the muscle mass I have.
I can find pictures, I'm sure, to show this. Let me dig around.
10-25-07, 12:21 PM
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Why is everything around here have to be mutually exclusive. upgrades without fitness, weight lifting without riding. Maybe just maybe some of us crazy folks actually do both. Of the riders I've talked with around here(ranging from cat5's to a UCI pro) many of them do the gym AND I found this out while riding with them. Aerobic base and increased muscle mass for sprinting, I'm waiting for the black hole to open and suck me right off the road. 
For me, I have a hard enough time completing all my sets of one legged pedals with good form. I have to think lifting to failure for my legs would make it harder to do the one legged pedals, stomps and muscle tensions on the bike, well.
And I'm convinced that sports specific resistence training (i.e. on the bike) is better than non sports specific resistence training (i.e. weights in a gym).
10-25-07, 12:40 PM
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Monkey wrench...
https://munews.missouri.edu/news-rele...osteopenia.php
[thanks to Dr. Pete pointing me to gamjams.net]
https://munews.missouri.edu/news-rele...osteopenia.php
[thanks to Dr. Pete pointing me to gamjams.net]
10-25-07, 01:28 PM
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^ There are a number of other reasons you might consider lifting weights. Going fast on your bike just isn't one of them.
10-25-07, 02:09 PM
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https://www.cyclingforums.com/t126133.html
355 post thread w/ lots of evidence against weights. Not that you can't go have some fun in the gym, but for actual race performance, weights are so 20 years ago.
355 post thread w/ lots of evidence against weights. Not that you can't go have some fun in the gym, but for actual race performance, weights are so 20 years ago.
