ElJamoquio

On the cost side - I've seen older, standard hubs go on eBay for $250. My wheel with everything cost $400.

patentcad

This post elevates the lack of grammar on BF to the level of mediocre abstract art.

Kudos.

Namenda

Your work here is done.

Squint

Yes, they were measured on treadmills and wore face masks. They ran up a 11% incline at 22 mph for 5 min.

What fascinates me are the wind tunnels built for high altitude bird physiology research. The O2 concentration and temperature are lowered to simulate high altitude and the bird flies in place, watching the Spinerval entitled, "DC-10 Wheelwell Stowaway."

popdelusions

Have you read Bernd Heinrich's book "Why We Run"? Very interesting on such points, treadmills included.

forrest_m

Now that would be interesting to watch. This piqued my interest, so I spent a few minutes of quality time with google and pubmed. I found the abstract for the research https://www.nature.com/nature/journal.../353748a0.html, but it just says that they "measured the oxygen uptake." Since I can't access the full article to read the methodology without paying, I had resigned myself to to living in ignorance...

daytonian

The Pronghorn is the only animal in the world with branched horns (not antlers) and the only animal in the world to shed its horns, as if they were antlers. The Pronghorn, like sheep and goats, has a gall bladder, and like giraffes, lacks dewclaws. If that weren't enough, the Pronghorn is the fastest animal in the western hemisphere, running in 20-foot bounds at up to 60 miles per hour. Unlike the Cheetah, speedburner of the African plains, the Pronghorn can run for hours at quite a fast pace.
The Pronghorn inhabits open plains and semi-deserts, living alone or in small bands in summer and forming large herds in winter. Being highly mobile, the Pronghorn may cover a large area during the year. Pronghorn can survive a temperature range of 180 degrees, from 130 in the deserts to 50 below zero.

Holy hsit! that is one bad mofo.

source: Desert USA

Squint

Lots of hits with these keywords on Google: "pronghorn antelope treadmill"

This is a good article:

https://discovermagazine.com/1992/dec...onghornspro172

popdelusions

Seriously, everyone interested in this should get the Heinrich book—it's sort of a memoir, sort of a mediation on the point and demands of sport and exercise by a guy who's both an ultramarathoner and an expert in mitochondrial oxidative physiology. It touches on a lot of these animal endurance experiments, and is actually quite moving.

elgalad

I was envisioning these as very large animals:

"stands approximately 3-feet tall at the shoulder"

MDcatV

More information on the Pronghorn is below. Anyone have a picture of these beasts on the treadmills?


https://books.google.com/books?id=wAa...2xbIc#PPA38,M1

patentcad

I think an outstanding name for a college football team would be the Bonghorns.

daytonian

400 watts

NomadVW 

I see a possible custom cycling jersey design in the works!

botto 

lack of grammar?

seppomadness

One thing I would add about training with power is that it has definitely helped me understand my body to a much higher degree. When I train on a spare wheelset (no Powertap) I am so much more attune to hitting different tempos and feeling where I am at relative to my limits. Quite possibly the same could be said of using a standard heart rate monitor? Not sure.

Even when I am training in the 'tingle zone' I can break that down into about 3 zones just by 'body feel' thanks mainly to training with power and listening to my body talk.

I am absolutely certain you can reach this level of body understanding without a Powertap but it has 'accelerated' my understanding quite a lot IMO.

Sadly this understanding usually equates to....'right if these cunz hold this tempo up this ***** hill for another 120 seconds I am popped'.

Doggus

eskimo85

^nice

Coyote2

Wise words. Though it sounds like the OP's wife would be happier without a Powertap. Is a podium place in some Podunk Crit really worth disappointing your wife?

patentcad

My cycling toys have always exceeded my ability. This describes 99.5% of bike weenies. What's your point botto?

Compressed

blah blah blah everything about why powermeters are good has already been said.

I have one. I use it and find it very useful for any type of ride I do. Intervals of 20 min or less and longer than 30s and recovery rides are when they are the most useful.

I doubt I'd have upgraded to cat 2 this season without using one.

Powermeters hold their value very well if you buy used. Buy one and use it for 6 months. If you don't like it turn around and sell it.

kukusz

I've been transfusing Pronghorn blood for years. I'm surprised it's just catching on.

damocles1

Let me boil it down...

Can you afford it without sacrificing other things (mortgage, bills, etc.)?
Do you want one?
Do you think it will help you?

If yes to all 3, then buy the f'ing thing...

Do you know why most of us ride bikes beyond our ability? The same reason my dog licks his balls...

BECAUSE HE CAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

kensuf

One of the guys I train with regularly has a PhD with a focus on sports and pain management. He's heavily involved with several research projects at the UF Sports Institute, and works closely with the guys who run the cycling performance program at the sports institute.

He's also a techno-junkie and likes a lot of toys to grab as much information as he possibly could..

So, this morning we were out on a 3.5 hour ride, and he mentioned that he should have his powertap back this afternoon from being rebuilt. I used the opportunity to ask what was his honest opinion of training via power.

"Honestly, it's nice to have the data, but for what your looking for, you'd be better off buying a really good heart rate monitor with five programmable zones and then put the left over money into a really nice set of wheels."

Treefox

I've got it. They're not too specific on methodology actually. Basically it's comparing the Antelope to all the other animals people have apparently studied, noting that they're just better really. Like a graph of how a pronghorn antelope on a WalMart bike could drop a goat on a P3 any day.

Any particular question you want me to dig out? It's a short article.