Racing in the ultimate category
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Racing in the ultimate category
Upgrade request declined, as expected. I wish I could race more, because I'd be there for sure. Maybe next year.
[smack talk]
For now, I'll focus on tearing the **** out of the M35+ field with Racer Ex and El Diablo Rojo, along with the rest of the team. I think our new kits should have a bullseye on the back.
If I do any Cat 3 or 3/4 races next year, I'm going to make it look like I'm really sandbagging.
[/smack talk]
[smack talk]
For now, I'll focus on tearing the **** out of the M35+ field with Racer Ex and El Diablo Rojo, along with the rest of the team. I think our new kits should have a bullseye on the back.
If I do any Cat 3 or 3/4 races next year, I'm going to make it look like I'm really sandbagging.
[/smack talk]
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Making a kilometer blurry
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Two of the wins and a 2nd were at the weekly crit which is too short to qualify, although it is USAC.
On the weekends, I've only got two wins, but only six races.
I wasn't "expecting" the upgrade, just hoping for it. Based on performance, I'm clearly one of the stronger 3s in TX. I just can't do enough races like everyone else.
On the weekends, I've only got two wins, but only six races.
I wasn't "expecting" the upgrade, just hoping for it. Based on performance, I'm clearly one of the stronger 3s in TX. I just can't do enough races like everyone else.
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Is that why they called me a "mongrel" in my rejection email?
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You might try requesting an upgrade after your first race next season. Especially if you murder the field.
I overheard one conversation with the local coordinator that because it was the end of the season, they were going to decline the upgrade for this particular rider and to resubmit next season.
I overheard one conversation with the local coordinator that because it was the end of the season, they were going to decline the upgrade for this particular rider and to resubmit next season.
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Two of the wins and a 2nd were at the weekly crit which is too short to qualify, although it is USAC.
On the weekends, I've only got two wins, but only six races.
I wasn't "expecting" the upgrade, just hoping for it. Based on performance, I'm clearly one of the stronger 3s in TX. I just can't do enough races like everyone else.
On the weekends, I've only got two wins, but only six races.
I wasn't "expecting" the upgrade, just hoping for it. Based on performance, I'm clearly one of the stronger 3s in TX. I just can't do enough races like everyone else.
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Meh, unless you have lived everwhere else, it is a hard statement to make. I know cycling is competitive in Texas, but I have heard California is quite a bit worse...
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My issue was the number of results more than anything. In the beginning of the season, I was still learning how not to race like the weak sprinter, given my new power development, so no results there. Once I started attacking, I started getting results, but I ran out of races (because of my schedule, not the race calendar).
Most of my races this year were 1/2/3, but looking for upgrade points, the 3s looks much more attractive
By the rules, I can't upgrade, that much is clear. But, when you win a race, and everyone else in the breakaway is a Cat 2, then you win the biggest Cat 3 crit in TX, then beat the Cat 3 state champ in another crit, I figured I had enough to at least ask
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Do your 35+ races count towards the upgrade? Maybe if you raced all Cat 3 instead of mostly 35+ races you'd have enough points. Not that it really matters - do the races that are the most fun and challenging for you.
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I was counting the Masters win as points. If your category is included, and the field size and distance are appropriate, seems like it should count, no?
The reply acknowledged that win, and this page doesn't indicate the race categories have to be skill-based.
The reply acknowledged that win, and this page doesn't indicate the race categories have to be skill-based.
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Yeah, my first goal is team success. I think this will align with me getting some results, as well as supporting. I'm not racing for myself though, and with my limited schedule, I may actually end up being Cat 3 forever...
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In OBRA Masters races count as long as the Cat is limited. For example a 35+ 123 race counts as upgrade points for 3 to 2, but 35+ all categories does not. At least that is how I understand it.
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I was counting the Masters win as points. If your category is included, and the field size and distance are appropriate, seems like it should count, no?
The reply acknowledged that win, and this page doesn't indicate the race categories have to be skill-based.
The reply acknowledged that win, and this page doesn't indicate the race categories have to be skill-based.
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Just do some 3/4 races in the spring for some more points. Just make sure you pin your rejection letter to you jersey, right next to your number. Then when the other racers cry about sandbaggers, just point to the letter.
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Get people from other teams to write letters demanding an investigation into your sandbagging.
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It certainly makes sense, especially given that masters races are harder than cat three races. But in my conversations with reps, at least, they claim only category results can count. Actually my rep cited that my masters results didn't count when she looked at my resume, which led her to the conclusion that I "wasn't a sandbagger." Phew. And I got crap from one of my teammates today for upgrading. Should have stayed a three. Don't do it WR. Stay there until they kick you out now.
It makes me laugh that someone beating me in a cat 3 race gets upgrade pts. to cat 2, but their points might be disputable if they race a M30/40+ race and beat any combination of Mark Warno, Ken Young, Ramon Benitez, Josh Frick, Dave Osbourne, Chip Hoover, Dave Fuentes, Russ Langley, Ken Johnson, Bo Lee, Pete Cannel, etc., etc., etc. That's idiotic poppycock.