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Old 03-05-09, 07:20 PM
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I agree with CDR about Dom Rollin. Had the pleasure to meet at a local crit while he was in town for fitness testing last season. Super nice guy and hes shown hes a heck of a bike rider.
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Originally Posted by YMCA
Nobody was more lauded as a child than Boonen.
Well, maybe Lebron James.

And more deserved of his lauds than Boonen...
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Linus Gerdemann. He won a stage and wore the yellow jersey in the 2007 TdF. You might remember that he missed most of last season, after he crashed in the stage 5 TT of Tirreno-Adriatico (still finishing 8th on his spare bike). After he returned he won three races straight away, including the Deutschland Tour. I think he is the most talented of the present riders, but gets much less attention than most.
Looks like a girl IMO.
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They got paid.
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The dude doesn't win much. Love him though, he's hard.

Also, I was disappointed you weren't all over the Tommy Danielson poll like a rash. Your contribution would have been invaluable.
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They got paid.
And they did well to get paid too. It's an honest days work.
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Old 03-10-09, 06:16 PM
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I forgot to mention Carlos Barredo and Bert Grabsch (sp?).
Barredo can man a long breakaway and can climb well.
Grabsch is probably the least known World Champion. People still don't know who he is. I doubt he'll ever be the favorite for any big TT's either.
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Originally Posted by CrimsonKarter21
I forgot to mention Carlos Barredo and Bert Grabsch (sp?).
Barredo can man a long breakaway and can climb well.
Grabsch is probably the least known World Champion. People still don't know who he is. I doubt he'll ever be the favorite for any big TT's either.
+1 on barredo.
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...once again, no respect for Grabsch.
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Originally Posted by ninjaman
...once again, no respect for Grabsch.
+1. IMO he's probably the best cantidate. He's the CHAMPION OF THE WORLD and people still haven't heard of him. I don't think anyone's ever even done an article/interview with him.
You're not goign to hear any aspiring TTists saying "Bert Grabsch is my hero" either.
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Originally Posted by ninjaman
...once again, no respect for Grabsch.
maybe i am crazy here, but what else has he done? i know, he won a world tt. obviously, that is a huge accomplishment. many riders would be elated with that. however, if you want to go with under rated pure time trialers, i would put serhiy/surgey gonchar/honchar above grabsh.
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If you're astute you can type (or even copy/paste!) his name into Google and find as much as I did.
https://www.highroadsports.com/team/13-Bert-Grabsch
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Originally Posted by CrimsonKarter21
If you're astute you can type (or even copy/paste!) his name into Google and find as much as I did.
https://www.highroadsports.com/team/13-Bert-Grabsch
Jesus man...just looking at the Columbia team roster, you get a real picture of just how stacked they are, especially with good time trialists:
Bert Grabsch
Marco Pinotti
Michael Rogers
Tony Martin
Kim Kirchen
George Hincapie
Edvald Boassen Hagen
Thomas Lovkvist
Adam Hansen(not usually spoken of in TT circles, but won the Australian TT champs in '08)

Most of these guys could place a top-10 in any time trial they enter. Wow.
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Victoria Pendleton. Has the double whammy of being female and on the track which unfortunately seems to banish her to relative obscurity, even to many cycling fans.
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Originally Posted by fly:yes/land:no
maybe i am crazy here, but what else has he done? i know, he won a world tt. obviously, that is a huge accomplishment. many riders would be elated with that. however, if you want to go with under rated pure time trialers, i would put serhiy/surgey gonchar/honchar above grabsh.

Pity Gonchars team sacked him because he couldn't adequately explain his crazy blood values.
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Originally Posted by ninjaman
Jesus man...just looking at the Columbia team roster, you get a real picture of just how stacked they are, especially with good time trialists:
Bert Grabsch
Marco Pinotti
Michael Rogers
Tony Martin
Kim Kirchen
George Hincapie
Edvald Boassen Hagen
Thomas Lovkvist
Adam Hansen(not usually spoken of in TT circles, but won the Australian TT champs in '08)

Most of these guys could place a top-10 in any time trial they enter. Wow.
Check out Garmin. They've got 3 (IIRC) national champion TTists as well cas a few road champs, a bunch of U23 champs, a world champion (maybe two, I can't remember), Olympians, World Championship riders, and a few GC riders wherever they go.
Both of their collective talent pools are very deep.


And Vicky Pendleton is an internation superstar. By no means under-rated, but not over-rated either. Ask for one name on the female track circuit and Vicky Pendleton is it.
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Originally Posted by CrimsonKarter21
If you're astute you can type (or even copy/paste!) his name into Google and find as much as I did.
https://www.highroadsports.com/team/13-Bert-Grabsch
yes. i know. a wiki search brings similar results. i wasn't asking for a procurement of the list. i was merely hinting at the fact that his palmares, while certainly impressive for a professional cyclist, are not really that staggering. a world championship is nothing to sneeze at, but i don't think a tt specialist that has won only a handful of elite tt's is something amazing.
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Originally Posted by classic1
Pity Gonchars team sacked him because he couldn't adequately explain his crazy blood values.
and this thread was started with a reference to eddy merckx. i bet he was clean... perhaps we should leave the doping allegations out of this or risk losing this thread to an entirely different debate. as far as the records are concerned, honchar/gonchar put together a much more comprehensive list of tt wins than grabsch has. or, do you debate this?
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Originally Posted by CrimsonKarter21
And Vicky Pendleton is an internation superstar. By no means under-rated, but not over-rated either. Ask for one name on the female track circuit and Vicky Pendleton is it.
Yeah, Pendleton is about the most recognizable female cyclist in the world right now, she gets TONS of media attention. Press in the UK are making her into a cyclo-sex symbol.
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Originally Posted by fly:yes/land:no
and this thread was started with a reference to eddy merckx. i bet he was clean... perhaps we should leave the doping allegations out of this or risk losing this thread to an entirely different debate. as far as the records are concerned, honchar/gonchar put together a much more comprehensive list of tt wins than grabsch has. or, do you debate this?
Gonchars results >>>>>>> Grabsh. Plus he has Giro stage wins and top 10's on GC. It's not even a debate.
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Ok I must be oblivious then Maybe Nicole Cooke.
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Originally Posted by Rotten *******
Ok I must be oblivious then Maybe Nicole Cooke.
If you ask anyone to name a few women road cyclists, Nicole Cook would be a pretty frequent name.
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