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cedricbosch 03-12-09 01:02 PM

OK to wear another team's skinsuit for a TT?
 
My team wants to sell me a skinsuit but they're expensive. I only do aroudn 4 tt's a year so I feel it would be a waste. My friend has an old skinsuit he's willing to sell me for cheap. Morality aside, is it legal to wear another team's jersey for a USCF time trial? The team no longer exists if that matters.

urbanknight 03-12-09 01:07 PM

Nope. Illegal and immoral. Wear your team jersey or a blank skinsuit if you don't want to buy one.

Also, keep in miind that a used skinsuit is just as nasty as used bibs or shorts.

asgelle 03-12-09 01:11 PM


Originally Posted by cedricbosch (Post 8517947)
My team wants to sell me a skinsuit but they're expensive. I only do aroudn 4 tt's a year so I feel it would be a waste. My friend has an old skinsuit he's willing to sell me for cheap. Morality aside, is it legal to wear another team's jersey for a USCF time trial? The team no longer exists if that matters.

Wouldn't it be great if they took all the rules and collected them in one place? Maybe published them or made them available through the internet?

http://www.usacycling.org/forms/RdTrkCx_rulebook.pdf
1N5d

botto 03-12-09 01:21 PM


Originally Posted by urbanknight (Post 8517995)
Nope. Illegal and immoral. Wear your team jersey or a blank skinsuit if you don't want to buy one.

Also, keep in miind that a used skinsuit is just as nasty as used bibs or shorts.

how's that? :twitchy:

urbanknight 03-12-09 01:34 PM


Originally Posted by botto (Post 8518108)
how's that? :twitchy:

XI: Thou shalt not advertiseth any sponsor not of thine own.

But really, just for dramatic effect :D

urbanknight 03-12-09 01:36 PM

Oh yeah, I'd also like to point out that once you consider that a skinsuit is like a jersey AND shorts, it's usually cheaper.

Lithuania 03-12-09 02:07 PM

so i assume its legal to wear a blank skinsuit ever if you are on a team?

asgelle 03-12-09 02:10 PM


Originally Posted by Lithuania (Post 8518429)
so i assume its legal to wear a blank skinsuit ever if you are on a team?

1N5c

Lithuania 03-12-09 02:14 PM

while you are looking it up why dont you go ahead and post it here

asgelle 03-12-09 02:23 PM


Originally Posted by Lithuania (Post 8518485)
while you are looking it up why dont you go ahead and post it here

Because it's not always possible to cut and paste from a PDF file and if people are too lazy to click on a link, I'm sure not going to go to the trouble of typing it out for them. Beisde, think of what you might learn going through the rule book looking up the relevant section.

cmh 03-12-09 02:41 PM


Originally Posted by cedricbosch (Post 8517947)
My team wants to sell me a skinsuit but they're expensive. I only do aroudn 4 tt's a year so I feel it would be a waste. My friend has an old skinsuit he's willing to sell me for cheap. Morality aside, is it legal to wear another team's jersey for a USCF time trial? The team no longer exists if that matters.

Legal or not, no official is going to penalize you for wearing another teams kit in a TT. As far as the morality, if you have a sponser giving your team a boatload of cash, it would be expected that you wear the kit (and while training as well). If your sponsers are giving team discounts or small amounts of money, than it isn't a big deal.

MDcatV 03-12-09 02:45 PM

how many criteriums do you do/yr? skinsuits are crit appropriate also.

cedricbosch 03-12-09 02:45 PM


Originally Posted by urbanknight (Post 8517995)
Nope. Illegal and immoral. Wear your team jersey or a blank skinsuit if you don't want to buy one.

Also, keep in miind that a used skinsuit is just as nasty as used bibs or shorts.

lol wut?

cedricbosch 03-12-09 02:46 PM


Originally Posted by cmh (Post 8518667)
Legal or not, no official is going to penalize you for wearing another teams kit in a TT. As far as the morality, if you have a sponser giving your team a boatload of cash, it would be expected that you wear the kit (and while training as well). If your sponsers are giving team discounts or small amounts of money, than it isn't a big deal.

I get $5000 in sponsor money for every Cat 5 race I enter, does that count?

bdcheung 03-12-09 02:50 PM


Originally Posted by cedricbosch (Post 8518709)
I get $5000 in sponsor money for every Cat 5 race I enter, does that count?

lol wut?

botto 03-12-09 03:08 PM


Originally Posted by cedricbosch (Post 8518709)
I get $5000 in sponsor money for every Cat 5 race I enter, does that count?

nope, but it proves that you're the uninteresting troll that i've always suspected you to be. ;)

Lithuania 03-12-09 03:20 PM


Originally Posted by asgelle (Post 8518560)
Because it's not always possible to cut and paste from a PDF file and if people are too lazy to click on a link, I'm sure not going to go to the trouble of typing it out for them. Beisde, think of what you might learn going through the rule book looking up the relevant section.

a simple yes or no would have been easier :)

cedricbosch 03-12-09 04:05 PM


Originally Posted by botto (Post 8518832)
nope, but it proves that you're the uninteresting troll that i've always suspected you to be. ;)

Don't even try to compete, I am at least 20x less interesting than you.

MONGO! 03-12-09 11:53 PM

Just wear your regular kit, a skinsuit isn't going to catapult you up the rankings

bdcheung 03-13-09 04:50 AM


Originally Posted by MONGO! (Post 8520800)
Just wear your regular kit, a skinsuit isn't going to catapult you up the rankings

:roflmao2:

asgelle 03-13-09 07:00 AM


Originally Posted by MONGO! (Post 8520800)
Just wear your regular kit, a skinsuit isn't going to catapult you up the rankings

So you say. The data says different.

Apus^2 03-13-09 07:29 AM

1N5c...starts out: UCI Teams and Category 1 & 2

Not illegal for 3, 4, 5--you can wear whatever kit.

asgelle 03-13-09 08:00 AM


Originally Posted by Apus^2 (Post 8521509)
1N5c...starts out: UCI Teams and Category 1 & 2

Not illegal for 3, 4, 5--you can wear whatever kit.

Except the controlling rule is 1N5d, but thanks for playing.

obra3 03-13-09 08:27 AM

No one is really going to care. Unless it was P/1/2 race I'd give my officials a really hard time for even considering punishing for something like this. I mean, that would mean those new Cat 5's riding their favorite Discovery kits would be punished. That would be pretty lame.

:roflmao:

ZeCanon 03-13-09 11:16 AM

Just get the skinsuit and use it for everything but road races. All crits can be raced in a skinsuit, you don't need to eat anything in 75 minutes so there is no need for pockets.

Apus^2 03-13-09 11:34 AM


Originally Posted by asgelle (Post 8521653)
Except the controlling rule is 1N5d, but thanks for playing.

True. I appreciate you pointing out my mistake. Thank you. :rolleyes:

Controlling ruling, yes. But at what level are they going to truly enforce it?

bdcheung 03-13-09 11:40 AM


Originally Posted by Apus^2 (Post 8522997)
But at what level are they going to truly enforce it?

That's irrelevant to the OP's question. :rolleyes: <-- just for you.

Apus^2 03-13-09 11:42 AM

Why thank you!

urbanknight 03-13-09 12:43 PM


Originally Posted by MONGO! (Post 8520800)
Just wear your regular kit, a skinsuit isn't going to catapult you up the rankings

No, tuck your jersey into your shorts and duct tape the pockets closed.

EivlEvo 03-13-09 12:58 PM

Are there any other officials that read these threads and cringe besides me?

I would ABSOLUTELY "penalize" you for wearing another teams kit, it would be further aggravated by your seemingly poor attitude.

Now the Caveat.

If a rider shows up wearing a kit that is not of a team that is represented (as the OP suggested) ie. a disco jersey or like an ONCE kit or something... there would be no issue. If you show up to a race cat 1/2/3 or not and had a jersey on for an opposing team that was represented within that peloton and I became aware of it, I would certainly take exception and make sure that AT LEAST riders in the peloton knew who you were and what team you rode for. You appear to be doing it for financial purposes, and not to cheat so it wouldn't be a huge issue, but it very easily could be.

Nextly, I'm not trying to be harsh, but when another poster takes the time to answer your question by going to THE GOVERNING BODY OF YOUR SPORTS WEBSITE and searches through a LENGTHY .pdf document that is READILY available to EVERYONE, and you criticize them for answering your question with the location of the solution with a comment such as "since you're looking could you just post the answer". I have to question what your intentions really are.

I'm really not trying to be a prick, but that just seems unacceptable. Compounded by the fact that you took the time and put in the effort to get onto a team and for whatever reason (financial is certainly understandable) don't want to buy their skinsuit...

I'm sure you're a nice bloke, but just stop for a second and think about how you're coming across.


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