seb1041

Sprinter if I didn't bonk on the previous hills.

ericm979

I wonder why the men's TT type chart rises consistently to the right (5 sec is lowest, 1 min is higher, etc) while the women's TT type chart has the 1 min value being the highest and the FTP value the next highest. Some of the other charts show a similar trend where the 1 min is higher than the equivalent male chart.

I'm not sure that extrapolating the 5 sec and 1 min values is going to be anywhere close to accurate. (I think it's ok to extrapolate FTP based on a 20 min effort however). Before you pigeon-hole yourself, do some real serious 5 sec and 1 min efforts, preferably in a race or group ride where you really go all out.


If I remember right, you're pretty new to racing. I don't think that it is a good idea for a new racer to decide "oh, I'm a climber" or whatever right away. It might be what you are best at now, but if you worked on your other skills you might be good at them too. The danger of deciding that you are a certain type is that you can start training to your strengths and ignoring your weaknesses, and making excuses when you don't do well in a race because one of your weaknesses was, well, weak. I'm definately guilty of that, though not so much when I started racing... I tried everything then.

Scummer

My 5" power is definitely rising faster than my FTP even so I mostly ride tempo trying to get my FTP up. I know that I'm definitely not a climber with my weight.

SushiJoe

Upper range of tempo?
Seems like SST seems to be the best way to go to raise FTP.

dmb2786

i think i lost all my power data. wait, i don't have a power meter. my only success came from a sprint, but i doubt that means anything.

ZeCanon

I have a very flat power profile with a spike in the 5" range. So I'm an all-arounder you had better get rid of before the finish.

Brian Ratliff

I am a natural sprinter. My limiter is power at threshold, which I am working on in training.

Quijibo187

so far my specialty has been DNF when I get more data (finish a race) I'll have a better idea.

fatallightning

Hard to say since I'm not really trained that well yet, but so far it looks like I lean toward sprinter. With my morphology, I don't think I'll ever be a TT'er.

Grumpy McTrumpy

My chart is wacky. I think I don't have enough real test data in the 1 minute area, since I am off the chart low on that one. My one hour power puts me at mid cat 4. My five second power is slightly lower, but still mid cat 4.

but here's the weird part...my 5 minute power apparently is mid cat 3. So the chart is a bizarre zigzag pattern. I voted for all-rounder because my one hour and five second power are somewhat even.

I don't really think it would be fair to judge anything until my initial three years of racing are completed though, and I have two to go.

umd

Yeah, she hasn't done much racing and has only done a few rides with the power meter, and no testing, but she did try to sprint and get the jump on me coming into our neighborhood on the way home yesterday

She had it in her head that she should be a sprinter but it wasn't really based on anything other than a romantic notion of sprinting and that in a swim meet she once beat another girl in a short event but lost to the same girl in a longer event. We discussed it a bit last night (I guess she posted this after I fell asleep ) and it made sense that she would be more skewed toward endurance since her whole family has been in endurance sports, and she doesn't actually think doing an Ironman is crazy...

We will do some testing soon, I wanted her to ride around with the thing for a bit to get a feel for things before jumping right in.

Btw, this was the 5s power:

Peak 5s (371 watts):
Duration: 0:05
Distance: 100 ft
Elevation Gain: 3 ft
Elevation Loss: 1 ft
Grade: 1.3 % (1 ft)
Min Max Avg
Power: 330 403 371 watts
Heart Rate: 157 161 159 bpm
Cadence: 59 61 60 rpm
Speed: 13.1 14.7 13.7 mph
Altitude: 116 118 117 ft
Crank Torque: 457 577 525 lb-in

And for the whole ride

Entire workout (103 watts):
Duration: 2:56:22 (4:07:24)
Work: 1078 kJ
TSS: 196 (intensity factor 0.821)
Norm Power: 123
VI: 1.2
Pw:HR: 2.64%
Distance: 38.128 mi
Elevation Gain: 4504 ft
Elevation Loss: 4489 ft
Grade: 0.0 % (15 ft)
Min Max Avg
Power: 0 403 103 watts
Heart Rate: 91 178 152 bpm
Cadence: 1 109 60 rpm
Speed: 0 50.7 13.1 mph
Altitude: -46 537 140 ft
Crank Torque: 0 1781 175 lb-in

And we rode together, this was mine. There is some discrepancy in the time due to the way we both have our pauses set. Oh yeah, we stopped for lunch in the middle. She asked me what my power was a lot, and I heard a lot of "that's not fair!"

Entire workout (91 watts):
Duration: 2:55:35 (4:06:58)
Work: 967 kJ
TSS: 47.2 (intensity factor 0.402)
Norm Power: 117
VI: 1.27
Pw:HR: -46.01%
Distance: 38.052 mi
Elevation Gain: 3881 ft
Elevation Loss: 3920 ft
Grade: -0.0 % (-39 ft)
Min Max Avg
Power: 0 952 92 watts
Heart Rate: 68 146 106 bpm
Cadence: 2 124 64 rpm
Speed: 0 35.7 13.1 mph
Altitude: -31 521 134 ft
Crank Torque: 0 815 136 lb-in

EvilGoodGuy

I have only been racing, as a cyclist, for 2 years so I'm hesitant to say forsure; however, I believe my power profile suits the time trial profile. I have a relatively high threshold with a relatively weak sprint. On the other hand, I crack too quickly after passing my threshold. I'm trying to improve my after threshold power by doing our local crit series. At the same time, I've never been a sprinter in other sports. As a hockey player, I had to rely on skill rather than speed. As a runner, I was far better running distances further than 5k. As a duathlete, I obviously spent alot of time working on threshold power. Thus, it make sense that my threshold is higher relative to my sprint.

SushiJoe

What power meter does Mrs. umd have? PowerTap or extra Quarq?
Or your Quarq swapped over for the time being?

cmh

It could be I'm more of an all arounder, but I answered sprinter since my best race placings have come from bunch sprints. No power meter.

deadly downtube

ooooh a thread where we get to talk about ourselves and why we're so special... basically i'm a mix of fabian cancellara, big george, jan ullrich on dope, and some say i'm also a lil' bit like cavendish.

asmallsol

I don't except what I am because if I did, I'd be 300 lbs, eating a full pizza for a snack, and not doing ****. Based upon my eating habits, I should be a huge fatty. Instead I try and motivate myself to get out and ride, try and stay ~155lbs, and do pretty well at it.

Phantoj

If you're perpetually off the back, you should say that you're a time trialist...

roadfix

non-competitive, general recreational all-arounder & poser

umd

We both have quarqs. She is using the original one and I have the new Saturn.

bdcheung

If you don't like it, move on. Nobody's forcing you to read.

Or ignore us. take action, be proactive, and stop whining.

Scummer

Yes, middle to upper range of tempo. I try to be in the 200-220W range for avg during my training rides.

kuf

I got an excel version of the chart and continued the formulas for a few more rows, then plotted my 5s and 1min values. There was a huge jump from 5s to 5min, with 60min slightly lower. (1 min was lower than 5s, but I haven't killed myself for 1 min yet, so I ingnored this value. Nor have I done a ride less than 2 hours, but my estimated FTP is higher than my 5 min.) This seems to confirm my fear that I am destined to suffer for long periods of time to get results. Everest Challenge appeals to me, except for the fact that I have such poor power/weight right now. When I get my weight back down, and work on my power, maybe I'll attempt that .

urbanknight

I chose time trialist because that's what I do after I go off the back.

kuf

It may be who they chose to sample. For the female TT, they sampled "Elite Australian road racer (top 10 at nationals)." Maybe not the best choice for a pure TT person.

kuf

umd and I were going up a 2% rise at a good speed towards the end of our ride. I told him he should look at his power. He said "it's 180, why?". I just give him an evil look. If he's doing 180, what does he think I'm doing! He's a little dense sometimes.