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NomadVW 05-18-09 10:37 AM


Originally Posted by El Diablo Rojo (Post 8938529)
If (and I don't believe this to be true) Levi were to gain a couple of minutes on Basso and DiLuca, it will be very interesting to see if Astana can protect Levi. Liquigas is very strong and Basso is a great climber who can attack. My feeling is that Astana will find that they will need more than an on form Horner to get Levi up the climbs and not lose any time time.

Liquigas has definitely shown the cards a little so far. I'm not sure they're as strong as they look. Basso ended up alone on the front real quick on stage 5 when Szmyd pulled off. LPR and Liquigas have done the work, where I'm not sure Astana has shown weakness - as much as they just haven't "shown" anything yet.

Di Luca is a relative unknown entity at the TT this year. Only thing we really have to go on is Trentino, and he was 1:23 down on Kloden there, with Basso about half way in between

Thomas Lövkvist is still in with a shout of putting some serious time in too. He's no slouch of a TT rider.

What I think we can be sure of is the guys in the top 10 will mostly still be in the top 10. I think we can also be sure that the riders 10th-20th could certainly get shaken up quite a bit.

Here's to a pretty boring Tuesday stage won by a break while the GC riders make the attempt to get ready for the TT.

Thoughts on seeing a 10th-20th place rider in the break Tuesday - high enough up to pose a threat to GC, requiring LPR to work hard day prior to the TT? There's some decent names from Horner down to Bruseghin (8th-20th).

deadly downtube 05-18-09 11:31 AM


But signing up, showing up, and THEN complaining about the conditions is screwed up. You're right - a lot of money changes hand in this business. A hell of a lot more than I'll ever lay hands on. If it wasn't important enough to check out before they got there, then I'm sorry - it sure as heck makes them look like a bunch of primadonnas when they figure it out the day of.
you gotta be effing sh***ing me, you think these riders have enough time on their hands to check out every single stage to make sure it's not dangerous as ****?? i can't believe you are siding with the giro director... did you see that picture with the tram lines??? they are practically parallel to the riders direction!! just admit you are wrong.

FixdGearHead 05-18-09 12:28 PM

"This circuit required explosive bursts. It required riders to get their butts up off the seats of their bikes, and some riders who are not so young anymore apparently don't feel like doing that," Zomegnan told the Associated Press. "Instead, it seems like their legs have become shorter and their tongues longer."

When asked if he was referring to Lance Armstrong, Zomegnan refused to specifically name the rider who the race had invested so heavily in attracting as the culprit. "I never name people who have disappointed me, just like I don't name girlfriends that have snubbed me."

- CyclingNews.com

patentcad 05-18-09 01:10 PM


Originally Posted by substructure (Post 8938550)
Was this already stated here by the race direcotr:

"The Italian dismissed claims made by several riders that the course was too dangerous, and speculated that the true reason for the revolt was that certain older riders lacked the power to handle the course's many turns."

A direct low blow directed @ Armstrong, lame, classless, almost French-like.

MitchellH 05-18-09 01:13 PM


Originally Posted by FixdGearHead (Post 8939426)
"This circuit required explosive bursts. It required riders to get their butts up off the seats of their bikes, and some riders who are not so young anymore apparently don't feel like doing that," Zomegnan told the Associated Press. "Instead, it seems like their legs have become shorter and their tongues longer."

When asked if he was referring to Lance Armstrong, Zomegnan refused to specifically name the rider who the race had invested so heavily in attracting as the culprit. "I never name people who have disappointed me, just like I don't name girlfriends that have snubbed me."

- CyclingNews.com

This has become quite the gossipfest, hasn't it? I wonder if this is it for the protests or if we're in for more of this kind of "entertainment" going forward.

MitchellH 05-18-09 01:15 PM


Originally Posted by patentcad (Post 8939698)
A direct low blow directed @ Armstrong, lame, classless, almost French-like.

I think an Italian would consider that an insult, but I'm not sure. :lol:

patentcad 05-18-09 01:55 PM


Originally Posted by MitchellH (Post 8939735)
I think an Italian would consider that an insult, but I'm not sure. :lol:

Italian Pizza sucks, you have to go to NY to get good pizza.

Go figure.

Panic 05-18-09 02:01 PM


Originally Posted by patentcad (Post 8940035)
Italian Pizza sucks, you have to go to NY to get good pizza.

Go figure.

Don't forget about Connecticut.

That said, I've had some great Italian pizza. Probably enough for all of us.

:D

deadly downtube 05-18-09 06:25 PM

watching the lance rest day video, he's talking about the tram lines being 200 meters before the finish line, and he shows with his fingers how tall they are, HOLY CRAP :eek::eek::eek: and they were running parallel!!

http://blog.oregonlive.com/horner/

botto 05-19-09 02:21 AM


Originally Posted by patentcad (Post 8940035)
Italian Pizza sucks, you have to go to NY to get good pizza.

Go figure.

incorrect.


Originally Posted by Panic (Post 8940091)
Don't forget about Connecticut.

That said, I've had some great Italian pizza. Probably enough for all of us.

: D

correct.

btw - italian pizza isn't that bad.

YMCA 05-19-09 05:30 AM


Originally Posted by deadly downtube (Post 8941829)
he's talking about the tram lines being 200 meters before the finish line, and he shows with his fingers how tall they are, HOLY CRAP

Yup, watch the sprint, guys are full out, have to negotiate the bump and then keep sprinting.

patentcad 05-19-09 05:43 AM

Forget about Connecticut.

Panic 05-19-09 05:54 AM


Originally Posted by patentcad (Post 8944137)
Forget about Connecticut.

Sir, you obviously don't know pizza if you can disparage Italy AND Connecticut.:D

RichinPeoria 05-19-09 06:24 AM


Originally Posted by botto (Post 8943933)
incorrect.

correct.

btw - italian pizza isn't that bad.

New York Pizza

Totonno’s
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3252/...fb40aed2fd.jpg
Di Fara’s, in the Midwood section of Brooklyn
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3177/...62ba1381ce.jpg
Peperoncino in the Park Slope area
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3027/...8871ebe669.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3072/...ae4c09b8e5.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3139/...01469e004a.jpg

Panic 05-19-09 06:29 AM

Been to Grimaldi's and DiFara's. Grimaldi's also in Hoboken was pretty damn good.

Lucky for me a guy from Bethel, CT, and on the national pizza team, moved to Huntsville, so once a month I head over the mountain and get some great pizza.

Hocam 05-19-09 07:04 AM

Hey the race is on...

Where's basso? WTF? I was expecting more attacks on this climb

substructure 05-19-09 07:07 AM

:crash: Must not eat computer screen.

Hocam 05-19-09 07:12 AM

I love the smiling climbers.

CrimsonKarter21 05-19-09 07:15 AM

I can't watch any coverage on this ****ty laptop. Tell me whats going on.

bdcheung 05-19-09 07:16 AM

http://live.cyclingnews.com/

15:13 CEST
Garzelli has just under 2km to go to the top and is holding 2'38 on the ISD duo. There are a lot more fans alongside the roads here to give him courage for the long haul.
Current situation

  • Stefano Garzelli (Acqua & Sapone - Caffe Mokambo)
  • Andriy Grivko and Giovanni Visconti (ISD) at 2.15
  • Felix Cardenas (Barloworld) and three more at 5.55
  • Maglia rosa group at 6.23

bdcheung 05-19-09 07:21 AM

Giro moto driver dies in pre-race collision Tuesday

Published: May. 19, 2009
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A motorbike driver escorting media at the Tour of Italy died after being involved in a traffic accident Tuesday morning, race organizers announced.
Fabio Saccani, 69, was driving to the start of the race's 10th stage at Cuneo in the Italian Alps when the accident occurred near the town of Bra in the north-west of Italy.
The peloton held a minute's silence for the veteran driver, who was participating in his 33rd Giro d'Italia, before the start of Wednesday's 11th stage in Turin.

TheKillerPenguin 05-19-09 07:42 AM

ToC could learn a thing or two from Unisport's giro coverage.

bdcheung 05-19-09 07:43 AM

Cobbled switchback on a mountain descent - fun fun fun.

Grumpy McTrumpy 05-19-09 07:52 AM

I think they are gonna catch him. LA for the stage win says I. :P

bdcheung 05-19-09 08:20 AM

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