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patentcad 05-21-09 09:46 AM

The would have gone faster on Cervelos.

USAZorro 05-21-09 09:47 AM


Originally Posted by classic1 (Post 8958134)
I think you have him mixed up with Pozzato Zorro.

Yes. I did. Have to keep better track of my z's. :lol:

MadCity Cyclist 05-21-09 09:49 AM

Hmmm. I expected some more out of Basso.

USAZorro 05-21-09 09:50 AM


Originally Posted by PanicDog (Post 8958867)
It seems like Di Luca is still in a good position to win with the way he has been climbing. Do you guys see Levi moving up at all?

DiLuca lost a full minute to Menchov time trialing up the last climb. There are a dozen guys in the peloton who would have no trouble dropping Danilo up a long, hard climb - including Menchov, Leipheimer and Sastre.

PanicDog 05-21-09 09:51 AM

Damn, Lance is twittering already. That is fast.

mike9903 05-21-09 09:52 AM


Originally Posted by twodimensional (Post 8958869)

Just realized that the Giro gives time bonuses to stage winners, all LL would need to do is win a stage by 9 seconds

CrimsonKarter21 05-21-09 09:58 AM


Originally Posted by mike9903 (Post 8958939)
Just realized that the Giro gives time bonuses to stage winners, all LL would need to do is win a stage by 9 seconds

Oh, that's all?

MadCity Cyclist 05-21-09 10:03 AM


Originally Posted by PanicDog (Post 8958927)
Damn, Lance is twittering already. That is fast.

Soon he'll have a smartphone on his bars to twitter from the peloton.

mike9903 05-21-09 10:10 AM


Originally Posted by crimsonkarter21 (Post 8958977)
oh, that's all?

exactly.......

Second Mouse 05-21-09 10:11 AM

Interesting to see what a TT like today's does to guys like Zabriskie (118th place in the stage, 10:42 down from the stage winner).

Flash 05-21-09 10:21 AM


Originally Posted by MitchellH (Post 8958771)
Armstrong with a respectable though not particularly impressive finish.


almost four years out of cycling, barely 8 months after he announced his return, broken collarbone during the lead-up. I'd say almost making the top 10 in this TT is very impressive. considering...

grolby 05-21-09 10:42 AM


Originally Posted by Second Mouse (Post 8959087)
Interesting to see what a TT like today's does to guys like Zabriskie (118th place in the stage, 10:42 down from the stage winner).

One possibility is that Dave Z knew that he was not a realistic contender on the stage (which, VN prognostications notwithstanding, he wasn't) and thought it would be better to dial it back and cruise in rather than blow a lot of energy for no good reason.

ETA: and by "possibility," I mean "extremely likely." Even on a course like this, Dave Z would be a good deal better than middle of the pack, just not good enough to really threaten for the win.

erader 05-21-09 10:49 AM


Originally Posted by grolby (Post 8959350)
One possibility is that Dave Z knew that he was not a realistic contender on the stage (which, VN prognostications notwithstanding, he wasn't) and thought it would be better to dial it back and cruise in rather than blow a lot of energy for no good reason.

ETA: and by "possibility," I mean "extremely likely." Even on a course like this, Dave Z would be a good deal better than middle of the pack, just not good enough to really threaten for the win.

garmin chipotle have been totally punked in this race. maybe dave z should have dialed it up a bit.

ed rader

nafun 05-21-09 10:50 AM


Originally Posted by grolby (Post 8959350)
One possibility is that Dave Z knew that he was not a realistic contender on the stage (which, VN prognostications notwithstanding, he wasn't) and thought it would be better to dial it back and cruise in rather than blow a lot of energy for no good reason.

ETA: and by "possibility," I mean "extremely likely." Even on a course like this, Dave Z would be a good deal better than middle of the pack, just not good enough to really threaten for the win.

Probably true, but i keep waiting to see what Garmin is saving all their energy for. Maybe so they can chase down some more breaks they missed so that they can set up to lose a few more sprints?

erader 05-21-09 10:50 AM


Originally Posted by Flash (Post 8959171)
almost four years out of cycling, barely 8 months after he announced his return, broken collarbone during the lead-up. I'd say almost making the top 10 in this TT is very impressive. considering...

gotta hand it to Lance. he's doing better overall than i thought.

ed rader

CyLowe97 05-21-09 10:54 AM


Originally Posted by nafun (Post 8959413)
Probably true, but i keep waiting to see what Garmin is saving all their energy for.

Tour of Missouri.

acortez 05-21-09 10:56 AM

I don't think Rabobank has the team to protect Menchov. Lots of attacks to come, and a lot of work for Menchov. Much like Evans last year for the tour.

erader 05-21-09 11:00 AM


Originally Posted by acortez (Post 8959462)
I don't think Rabobank has the team to protect Menchov. Lots of attacks to come, and a lot of work for Menchov. Much like Evans last year for the tour.

guys like menchov and rogers usually find a way to lose. let's see if menchov can keep the maglia rosa.

ed rader

Second Mouse 05-21-09 11:03 AM


Originally Posted by erader (Post 8959405)
garmin chipotle have been totally punked in this race. maybe dave z should have dialed it up a bit.

ed rader




Originally Posted by nafun (Post 8959413)
Probably true, but i keep waiting to see what Garmin is saving all their energy for. Maybe so they can chase down some more breaks they missed so that they can set up to lose a few more sprints?

Yeah, it hasn't been Garmin-Slipstream's best race. Stages 12 and 21 are about as different TT stages as you could ask for though. Hopefully Z can put in an appearance on 21.

erader 05-21-09 11:07 AM

i used the term "punked" because garmin chipotle did it to themselves by announcing they were going to win the TTT :eek:.

ed rader

El Diablo Rojo 05-21-09 11:08 AM


Originally Posted by acortez (Post 8959462)
I don't think Rabobank has the team to protect Menchov. Lots of attacks to come, and a lot of work for Menchov. Much like Evans last year for the tour.


This is where Liquigas holds the cards, strong team with two guys in the running for the overall...lots of cards play.

El Diablo Rojo 05-21-09 11:10 AM


Originally Posted by erader (Post 8959491)
guys like menchov and rogers usually find a way to lose. let's see if menchov can keep the maglia rosa.

ed rader

You mean like Vuelta? Menchov is proven commodity...his team not so much.

erader 05-21-09 11:12 AM


Originally Posted by El Diablo Rojo (Post 8959578)
You mean like Vuelta? Menchov is proven commodity...his team not so much.

you mean the race that none of the top GC guys contest :D?

menchov is this generation's abraham olano until he proves otherwise (to me anyway).

ed rader

bbattle 05-21-09 11:15 AM


Originally Posted by acortez (Post 8959462)
I don't think Rabobank has the team to protect Menchov. Lots of attacks to come, and a lot of work for Menchov. Much like Evans last year for the tour.

Yes, it's actually not bad for Astana to have DiLuca in second place and with five Italians in the top ten, there should be plenty of help to weaken Rabobank and Menchov.

substructure 05-21-09 11:15 AM

I can't believe more guys in my biking community aren't watching this tour. I filled them in today during lunch.

"Why isn't Versus airing it?" I got.

If they were, I wouldn't be able to watch it much.


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